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From: "David Burnworth" <xlh883@ea*.ne*>
To: <trey@ne*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Decoplanner for recreational
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:54:04 -0800
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Hi George,

I was under the impression that the computer programs were to make up a =
plan for a dive, then you take a copy of it in some form with you on the =
dive.  As for the dive computers, I had an incident happen to me with =
one that made me realize how reliant I was on it.  Since that dive I =
have been using a bottom timer (not bottom planner, typo.)  Any way, I =
see now that using the tables and applying what you have already talked =
about is the key to successful diving.  Right now, I think I am having =
trouble grasping the concepts because of too many sources of varying =
information.

I did take the DIR-F course already and have learned quite a bit.  We =
just barely touched on deco stuff and breathing mixtures.  I had already =
started using the bottom timer before the class.  I plan to go with =
GUE's teaching's because I have "seen the light."  I will take the Tech =
1 when I can afford to. =20

Right now I feel like I have enough information to be dangerous to =
myself, but not enough to be safe, safe being the goal.  I am not ready =
for deco diving but am trying to prepare myself for that to come soon as =
a normal dive profile.  If it takes buying that software to teach myself =
along with other sources, then I am willing to do so.  I am planning to =
join Quest online this week to. =20

Thanks,

D Burnworth
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: George Irvine=20
  To: David Burnworth ; techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:31 AM
  Subject: RE: Decoplanner for recreational


  David, the only benefit of deco programs is so you can dive on your =
computer at home and learn from it. Then you have to apply the rules I =
talked about, and then you have to use the logic . You will never need a =
written table or an in-water computer. I have neither for any dive I do, =
and now don't even look at the home computer to figure out a dive.

  GUE teaches people to do that, I thought you took a GUE course?

  What is a bottom planner? Is that like a topo map?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Burnworth [mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:28 PM
    To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
    Subject: Decoplanner for recreational


    Hi everyone,

    I have given up the use of a dive computer and have reverted to a =
bottom planner.  Several friends of mine are using software to generate =
their own tables.  These friends do dive a little more aggressively than =
I am trained to do right now as they sometimes dive with Trimix and I am =
unable to at this time.

    My question is, since I am basic Nitrox qualified, would I see any =
benefit of using software like Decoplanner over the standard tables that =
I have from NAUI?  Air or Nitrox specifically.  My friends have 1 minute =
decos planned into their tables for dives that would be generally =
considered no deco dives.  I understand that stops in general are =
usually beneficial, but I would like to see them in table format and be =
able to copy them into wetnotes.

    In short, can a software program like DecoPlanner benefit the every =
day recreational diver that occasionally goes deeper than say 60 feet =
for example.

    Thank you,

    D Burnworth=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi George,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was under the impression that the =
computer=20
programs were to make up a plan for a dive, then you take a copy of it =
in some=20
form with you on the dive.  As for the dive computers, I had an =
incident=20
happen to me with one that made me realize how reliant I was on =
it. =20
Since that dive I have been using a bottom timer (not bottom planner,=20
typo.)  Any way, I see now that using the tables and applying what =
you have=20
already talked about is the key to successful diving.  Right now, I =
think I=20
am having trouble grasping the concepts because of too many sources of =
varying=20
information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did take the DIR-F course already and =
have=20
learned quite a bit.  We just barely touched on deco stuff and =
breathing=20
mixtures.  I had already started using the bottom timer before the=20
class.  I plan to go with GUE's teaching's because I have "seen the =

light."  I will take the Tech 1 when I can afford to.  =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Right now I feel like I have enough =
information to=20
be dangerous to myself, but not enough to be safe, safe being the =
goal.  I=20
am not ready for deco diving but am trying to prepare myself for that to =
come=20
soon as a normal dive profile.  If it takes buying that software to =
teach=20
myself along with other sources, then I am willing to do so.  I am =
planning=20
to join Quest online this week to.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D Burnworth</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dgirvine@be*.ne* =
href=3D"mailto:girvine@be*.ne*">George=20
  Irvine</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dxlh883@ea*.ne*=20
  href=3D"mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*">David Burnworth</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 13,
=
2002 3:31=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Decoplanner
for=20
  recreational</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>David, the only benefit of deco programs is so you can dive =
on your=20
  computer at home and learn from it. Then you have to apply the rules I =
talked=20
  about, and then you have to use the logic . You will never need a =
written=20
  table or an in-water computer. I have neither for any dive I do, and =
now don't=20
  even look at the home computer to figure out a =
dive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>GUE=20
  teaches people to do that, I thought you took a GUE=20
course?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>What=20
  is a bottom planner? Is that like a topo map?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David
Burnworth=20
    [mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 12, =
2002=20
    9:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Decoplanner=20
    for recreational<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have given up the use of a dive =
computer and=20
    have reverted to a bottom planner.  Several friends of mine are =
using=20
    software to generate their own tables.  These friends do dive a =
little=20
    more aggressively than I am trained to do right now as they =
sometimes dive=20
    with Trimix and I am unable to at this time.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My question is, since I am basic =
Nitrox=20
    qualified, would I see any benefit of using software like =
Decoplanner over=20
    the standard tables that I have from NAUI?  Air or Nitrox=20
    specifically.  My friends have 1 minute decos planned into =
their tables=20
    for dives that would be generally considered no deco =
dives.  I=20
    understand that stops in general are usually beneficial, but I would =
like to=20
    see them in table format and be able to copy them into=20
wetnotes.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In short, can a software program =
like=20
    DecoPlanner benefit the every day recreational diver that =
occasionally goes=20
    deeper than say 60 feet for example.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D=20
Burnworth</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY><
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