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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C1B390.95AAB620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes , we have done bloodwork on me and JJ , and continue to do so. No changes, damage or markers for any kind of immune or dcs indications, at any time after the dives. I'd like to see blood work on one of these IANTD air or nitrox classes. Geez, I wish that they would hurry up and get all this out in the open so these guys will look like the idiots that I have always known they are. -----Original Message----- From: John R. Strohm [mailto:strohm@ai*.ne*] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:36 AM To: George Irvine Subject: Red blood cells and nitrogen Something just now occurred to me. High partial pressures of nitrogen cause the red blood cells to go rigid, causing capillary damage and triggering immune response. Well-known. In Bennett & Elliott, "Physiology and Medicine of Diving", 4th ed., there is a chart on p. 368, with explanatory text on p. 367. The experiment was to run a chamber dive, on air, on a schedule known to be apparently trouble-free, then monitor red blood cell counts over the next several days. The results show a significant die-off of red blood cells over the next two days, with red blood cell levels returning to normal only several days later. Do you know if the latter is just the longer-term effect of the former? Has anyone done red blood cell count monitoring on WKPP gas divers, over several days post-dive? This might be something worth doing. --John ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C1B390.95AAB620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D811024111-12022002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Yes ,=20 we have done bloodwork on me and JJ , and continue to do so. No changes, = damage=20 or markers for any kind of immune or dcs indications, at any time after = the=20 dives. I'd like to see blood work on one of these IANTD air or nitrox = classes.=20 Geez, I wish that they would hurry up and get all this out in the open = so these=20 guys will look like the idiots that I have always known they=20 are.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> John R. Strohm=20 [mailto:strohm@ai*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 11, 2002 = 8:36=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> George Irvine<BR><B>Subject:</B> Red blood cells and=20 nitrogen<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Something just now occurred to = me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>High partial pressures of nitrogen = cause the red=20 blood cells to go rigid, causing capillary damage and triggering = immune=20 response. Well-known.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In Bennett & Elliott, "Physiology = and=20 Medicine of Diving", 4th ed., there is a chart on p. 368, = with=20 explanatory text on p. 367. The experiment was to run a chamber = dive, on=20 air, on a schedule known to be apparently trouble-free, then monitor = red blood=20 cell counts over the next several days. The results show a = significant=20 die-off of red blood cells over the next two days, with red blood cell = levels=20 returning to normal only several days later.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you know if the latter is just the = longer-term=20 effect of the former?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone done red blood cell count = monitoring=20 on WKPP gas divers, over several days post-dive? This might be = something=20 worth doing.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--John</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C1B390.95AAB620-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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