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From: Jsuw@ao*.co*
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:03:37 EST
Subject: Re: underwater camera
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com

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Since you are asking the question on Techdiver:  How deep do you plan to take 
the camera?  That might be a consideration for the camera you choose.  

Check the depth rating, but understand that manufacturers are conservative 
with the numbers they give.  The Nikonos V is not rated to go as deep to 
190', but I've taken it there before, and friends have taken it to 200'.  
Don't stretch it too far though.

If you are not planning to take the camera past 130', then the Sea and Sea 
Motormarine II is a nice camera.  It will take good photos.  Check the specs, 
it may be rated to go deeper too.  There are lower cost options if you are 
looking for just snapshots (and shallow); the Aquashot housing for disposable 
cameras works well if you get the external flash unit too.

I know you said you are looking just for snapshots now, but if you think you 
are going to like taking pictures, and you might want more in the future, 
then I recommend getting the better camera now.  Spending $500 now and then 
turning around in a few years (or less) and spending more than that on a 
better system is a waste of money on the first camera.

I started taking pictures with a Motormarine (before the MM II came out).  It 
is not a very sophisticated camera.  While I learned some photo techniques 
while using it, my photos improved in quality by order of magnitude when I 
got a Nikonos V and had a camera with a good lens (and that was just the 35mm 
lens).  The best of my early photos are ones I would throw away today.

Have fun,
Jan

In a message dated 1/30/02 6:03:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
jonas@be*.ne* writes:


> 
> I would reccomend the motormarine II-EX <A
HREF="http://www.seaandsea.com/mmiiex.html">
> http://www.seaandsea.com/mmiiex.html</A> from Sea & Sea <A
HREF="http://www.seaandsea.com/">
> http://www.seaandsea.com/</A>
>  
> I recommend this over the MX-10 which is pretty much a dead end when you 
> develop your skill and want to expand your system.
>  
> /Jonas
>  
>  
>  
> --
> Jonas Bergenudd
> +46 733 909 909 
> 
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TimAndrews [mailto:tandrews@ne*.ne*]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:18 PM
>> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> Subject: 
>> 
>> 
>> hi- in some posts we had some divers taslking about cameras. can someone 
>> email me some suggestions for a decent priced, entry level camera that 
>> wont break the bank? im not looking to take contest pictures. i just want 
>> to take some pictures for my scrap book. thanks for the help. tim
>> 
> 


Visit my web page with underwater and other photos at 
http://members.aol.com/jsuw3/index.html

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#800040" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">Since you are asking the question
on Techdiver:  How deep do you plan to take the camera?  That might
be a consideration for the camera you choose.  <BR>
<BR>
Check the depth rating, but understand that manufacturers are conservative with
the numbers they give.  The Nikonos V is not rated to go as deep to 190',
but I've taken it there before, and friends have taken it to 200'.  Don't
stretch it too far though.<BR>
<BR>
If you are not planning to take the camera past 130', then the Sea and Sea
Motormarine II is a nice camera.  It will take good photos.  Check
the specs, it may be rated to go deeper too.  There are lower cost options
if you are looking for just snapshots (and shallow); the Aquashot housing for
disposable cameras works well if you get the external flash unit too.<BR>
<BR>
I know you said you are looking just for snapshots now, but if you think you
are going to like taking pictures, and you might want more in the future, then
I recommend getting the better camera now.  Spending $500 now and then
turning around in a few years (or less) and spending more than that on a better
system is a waste of money on the first camera.<BR>
<BR>
I started taking pictures with a Motormarine (before the MM II came out). 
It is not a very sophisticated camera.  While I learned some photo
techniques while using it, my photos improved in quality by order of magnitude
when I got a Nikonos V and had a camera with a good lens (and that was just the
35mm lens).  The best of my early photos are ones I would throw away
today.<BR>
<BR>
Have fun,<BR>
Jan<BR>
<BR>
In a message dated 1/30/02 6:03:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, jonas@be*.ne*
writes:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>
I would reccomend the motormarine II-EX <A
HREF="http://www.seaandsea.com/mmiiex.html">http://www.seaandsea.com/mmiiex.html
</A></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> from Sea & Sea <A
HREF="http://www.seaandsea.com/">http://www.seaandsea.com/</A></FONT><F
ONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
 <BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I recommend this over the MX-10 which
is pretty much a dead end when you develop your skill and want to expand your
system.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
 <BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">/Jonas</FONT><FONT 
COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
 <BR>
 <BR>
 <BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">--<BR>
Jonas Bergenudd<BR>
+46 733 909 909</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:
#ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px;
PADDING-LEFT: 5px">-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From:</B> TimAndrews [mailto:tandrews@ne*.ne*]<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:18 PM<BR>
<B>To:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">hi- in some posts we had some divers
taslking about cameras. can someone email me some suggestions for a decent
priced, entry level camera that wont break the bank? im not looking to take
contest pictures. i just want to take some pictures for my scrap book. thanks
for the help. tim</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:
#ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<B>Visit my web page with underwater and other photos at
http://members.aol.com/jsuw3/index.html</B></FONT></HTML>

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