Mailing List Archive

Mailing List: techdiver

Banner Advert

Message Display

From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Monaghan Tindale" <montindale@fr*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: DIR sidemount question
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:25:08 -0500

There is no big trick to DIR sidemount. In cold water, we use our dry suits
and a normal backplate with a weight belt of our decompression backplates
with tiny Halcyon wings. The backplate has two curved weights bolted through
where the tanks would go , usually 20-24 pounds in two weights. The wing has
enough lift to offset the plate and weights. The inflator of the wings is
not hooked up to a tank. The argon bottle inflates the drysuit, and the
wreck style argon location is used. The bottles are merely stage rigged with
normal stages added , only on the right there is no lower d-ring, just a
bungee loop that slides free on the belt . The light goes in the normal
place, as does everything else on the harness. Stages are carried and
breathed with the doubles being treated like back tanks. There is no long
hose. If you need to share, you hand off and discard the bad bottle, if
indeed it even comes to that with proper stage management, which it should
not. There is no silliness with any other bondage arrangement that the
strokes us.

In hot water, with wetsuit, we use the same thing with no weight for fresh
and a smaller version of the weight for salt. We do not hook up the inflator
to a tank.

This is not rocket science. The horseshit dreamed up by sidemounters is
ridiculous. We don't do it unless we really need to look at something where
there is no other way, and it is a logistic nightmare to set up, but it can
be done right.

I have done it mostly in the Bahamas, and we do it every dive for
decompression in the WKPP . We remove the back tanks or rebreather and go to
the sidemount rig for comfort and so we can more easily get up out of the
water in troughs, or habitats. Even then, we see no reason to create some
stroke rig.

You act like you have some preconceived notion that I was going to say
something as stupid as the Brits put on here, but as you can see, it is not
necessary. I have been in plenty of no vis situations with my buddies, like
JJ and Brent, and trust me, there was no problem keeping track, and any real
diver knows that. For one thing, you can hear the other person breathing,
and then there is touch contact. and all the other natural skills that are
supposed to be taught in dive class, unless of course you were taught by
assholes like whomever is teaching cave diving to the Brits, in which case
they will tell you why they were so good at Normandy storming the beach and
getting killed, a trait they think needs to be applied to diving. It does
not. Diving should be safe and fun, and enjoyed with friends. If somebody
wants to prove how tough they are, they need to get into one of those Gracie
competeitions, not do it in the water, or see how far they can stick a
baseball bat up their ass ( for the Brits that would be a cricket bat).

That last post by one of those morons was like some confession of sheer
stupidity. In scanning through it, towards the end I picked up the words to
the effect of "getting some respect". I don't respect morons, and I don't
respect people trying to be tough guys doing stupid things and trying to
pass them on to others.



-----Original Message-----
From: Monaghan Tindale [mailto:montindale@fr*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:09 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: DIR sidemount question


Life is learning - yes?

Following on from other posts

Though is subject to debate I would welcome some top tips wrt the use of DIR
sidemount in low vis pushing situations where the cave space envelope does
not allow use of manifolded back mounted twins or the close proximity of the
buddy.  I am particularly interested in the DIR philospohy for light
location, gas management, buddy communication over distances greater than 3m
in zero vis and the age old long hose issue wrt sidemount.  This question
does not cover the use of clips etc which is obvious.

Is the DIR solution in this situation just 'don't dive it'?  if so, isn't
this a bit self limiting?

I am familiar with other systems and am particularly familiar with the
'American Sidemount' which is workable but could be improved.  GI has
confirmed that a DIR approach exists. I'm curious.

Comments.  Or flames.

Regards

Mon Tindale

--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.


--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]