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From: "John R. Strohm" <strohm@ai*.ne*>
To: <NYTECDIVERS@ao*.co*>, <h.choat@pc*.gu*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Wreck diving instruction
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 03:30:57 -0800
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Delurking briefly.

The incident you describe happened.  It was at Wakulla, in mid-1996, I =
think.  The guy's tank was empty, he got overwhelmed (task loading and =
perceptual narrowing) by what was going on, drowned.  JJ was right =
there, hauled him to the surface, and he was resuscitated ON SITE.

Read that last phrase carefully.  Notice the word "resuscitated".  THE =
DEAD GUY DIDN'T STAY DEAD.

The victim wrote the whole thing up for the list shortly afterwards.  I =
may still have a copy of his writeup somewhere.

Now tell us how many of the guys who died while diving off the boat were =
resuscitated on the boat.  Show us THEIR writeups, where they tell us =
what they were thinking as they realized they were dying, and then as =
they realized they were still alive.


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: NYTECDIVERS@ao*.co*=20
  To: h.choat@pc*.gu*.ne*=20
  Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 5:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Wreck diving instruction


  Here is where you are wrong ask JJ I think he brought him bach to =
life.

    Wrong.  That was the USDCT, not WKPP.  That guy was never a member =
of the WKPP.  Check your facts.

    At 12:18 PM 1/23/02 -0500, you wrote:

      So what is his track record? Yes, people died while diving off his =
boat but he was not diving with them. I remember a few summers ago =
somebody (Mike something worked at Ginnie) died on the WKPP while diving =
Wakulla but he was lucky enough for someone to revive him, so are you =
the moron now because he was on you project


        Danny may be the biggest idiot and is definitely one of the =
worst examples in diving. He has no "skills", he knows nothing worth =
knowing, he is a dangerous moron and has the track record and the =
photographs to prove it. Obviously , you are as bad as he is. Nobody =
with a working brain would consider that guy to be anything but =
bullshit.









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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Delurking briefly.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The incident you describe =
happened.  It was at=20
Wakulla, in mid-1996, I think.  The guy's tank was empty, he got=20
overwhelmed (task loading and perceptual narrowing) by what was going =
on,=20
drowned.  JJ was right there, hauled him to the surface, and he was =

resuscitated ON SITE.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Read that last phrase carefully.  =
Notice the=20
word "resuscitated".  THE DEAD GUY DIDN'T STAY DEAD.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The victim wrote the whole thing up for =
the list=20
shortly afterwards.  I may still have a copy of his writeup=20
somewhere.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now tell us how many of the guys who =
died while=20
diving off the boat were resuscitated on the boat.  Show us THEIR =
writeups,=20
where they tell us what they were thinking as they realized they were =
dying, and=20
then as they realized they were still alive.</FONT></DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:NYTECDIVERS@ao*.co*"=20
  title=3DNYTECDIVERS@ao*.co*>NYTECDIVERS@aol.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:h.choat@pc*.gu*.ne*"=20
  title=3Dh.choat@pc*.gu*.ne*>h.choat@pcola.gulf.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, =
2002 5:05=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Wreck diving=20
  instruction</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT
size=3D2>Here is =
where you are=20
  wrong ask JJ I think he brought him bach to life.<BR>
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  TYPE=3D"CITE">Wrong.  That was the USDCT, not WKPP.  That =
guy was=20
    never a member of the WKPP.  Check your facts.<BR><BR>At 12:18 =
PM=20
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    TYPE=3D"CITE">So what is his track record? Yes, people died while =
diving off=20
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ago=20
      somebody (Mike something worked at Ginnie) died on the WKPP while =
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      TYPE=3D"CITE">Danny may be the biggest idiot and is definitely one =
of the=20
        worst examples in diving. He has no "skills", he knows nothing =
worth=20
        knowing, he is a dangerous moron and has the track record and =
the=20
        photographs to prove it. Obviously , you are as bad as he is. =
Nobody=20
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