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From: JDisler401@ao*.co*
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:43:26 EST
Subject: Re: Helmets for cave diving. What's the deal?
To: scoff_cavedivinggroup@ho*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com

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Greetings scoff,

Well said and true to reality are the words you have shared.

I think the most basic philosophy of anyone who dry caves is to wear a helmet.

For the sake of argument, or to perhaps conclude this argument...
Imagine a sump (small, large, within any stratum, etc..)  which necessitates 
a dive for the dry caver to reach the airfilled cave beyond.

The experienced dry caver (that is someone who actually dry caves) will,
A. Most likely choose to wear a helmet to reach the sump.

B. Most likely wish to have a helmet to explore the airfilled sections beyond 
the sump.

Personally I would choose all of the above, but If I had to choose between A 
or B, I would unquestionably select B for the simple reason, that is the 
location where Murphy could make some very serious problems.

So now that the use of proper headgear has been selected, the choice of 
lighting becomes a second consideration.
The light selected must have,

A. The ability to become attach to the helmet which ultimately will become 
one with the caver.(This due to the reasons you have outlined, hands free 
lighting for the purpose of negotiating the airfilled cave passage, etc.)

B.Have extended burn times, because of the nature of this activity,(aka sump 
diving).

C.Desirable power to weight ratio and durability.

D.Usable both in and out of the submerged sections of passage and without the 
need for reconfiguration of gear. In other words, to go from dry cave mode to 
dive mode and back with as little hassle as possible.

So now the marriage of headgear and lighting has been made and hopefully the 
suitability of same has been made somewhat clear. 
How would the helmet best be carried through the sump?  I'd suggest it would 
be on the head of the explorer.

The above method equates to less extraneous gear which simplifies the 
logistics.

Scoff, as you also have pointed out, it is possible to wear a helmet mounted 
light without blinding team members. 
It is also possible, given adequate visibility, to shield the light to search 
for a team members light or to signal same.

I agree that the suitability of DIR has been well noted and I believe that 
some conditions do support it's use better than others.

Also, I am not suggesting this is the only way to dive in sumps, and would 
like to hear from others who have successfully used DIR for actual sump 
dives. 
What equipment configuration was used to explore the airfilled passage beyond 
the sump? Anyone?

Disclaimer, I do not claim to be an expert on any type of diving, but I did 
stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

"Silt Happens" JD

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Greetings scoff,
<BR>
<BR>Well said and true to reality are the words you have shared.
<BR>
<BR>I think the most basic philosophy of anyone who dry caves is to wear a
helmet.
<BR>
<BR>For the sake of argument, or to perhaps conclude this argument...
<BR>Imagine a sump (small, large, within any stratum, etc..)  which
necessitates a dive for the dry caver to reach the airfilled cave beyond.
<BR>
<BR>The experienced dry caver (that is someone who actually dry caves) will,
<BR>A. Most likely choose to wear a helmet to reach the sump.
<BR>
<BR>B. Most likely wish to have a helmet to explore the airfilled sections
beyond the sump.
<BR>
<BR>Personally I would choose all of the above, but If I had to choose
between A or B, I would unquestionably select B for the simple reason, that is
the location where Murphy could make some very serious problems.
<BR>
<BR>So now that the use of proper headgear has been selected, the choice of
lighting becomes a second consideration.
<BR>The light selected must have,
<BR>
<BR>A. The ability to become attach to the helmet which ultimately will
become one with the caver.(This due to the reasons you have outlined, hands
free lighting for the purpose of negotiating the airfilled cave passage, etc.)
<BR>
<BR>B.Have extended burn times, because of the nature of this activity,(aka
sump diving).
<BR>
<BR>C.Desirable power to weight ratio and durability.
<BR>
<BR>D.Usable both in and out of the submerged sections of passage and
without the need for reconfiguration of gear. In other words, to go from dry
cave mode to dive mode and back with as little hassle as possible.
<BR>
<BR>So now the marriage of headgear and lighting has been made and hopefully
the suitability of same has been made somewhat clear. 
<BR>How would the helmet best be carried through the sump?  I'd suggest
it would be on the head of the explorer.
<BR>
<BR>The above method equates to less extraneous gear which simplifies the
logistics.
<BR>
<BR>Scoff, as you also have pointed out, it is possible to wear a helmet
mounted light without blinding team members. 
<BR>It is also possible, given adequate visibility, to shield the light to
search for a team members light or to signal same.
<BR>
<BR>I agree that the suitability of DIR has been well noted and I believe
that some conditions do support it's use better than others.
<BR>
<BR>Also, I am not suggesting this is the only way to dive in sumps, and
would like to hear from others who have successfully used DIR for actual sump
dives. 
<BR>What equipment configuration was used to explore the airfilled passage
beyond the sump? Anyone?
<BR>
<BR>Disclaimer, I do not claim to be an expert on any type of diving, but I
did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
<BR>
<BR>"Silt Happens" JD</FONT></HTML>

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