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From: "gnat" <gnat@ao*.ne*>
To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Fw: Skin Diver - Subaquatic Survivor
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:53:06 -0500
Not that i'll have anything meaningful to add to the list for a few more
years, but I thought this response from DAN might be of interest.

-dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Orr, Dan" <dorr@da*.du*.ed*>
To: <gnat@ao*.ne*>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:35 PM
Subject: Skin Diver - Subaquatic Survivor


>
> Dear Mr. Whittle:
>
> Thank you very much for your recent e-mail message concerning Skin Diver
> Magazine and their "Subaquatic Survivor".  We were unaware until recently
> that Skin Diver Magazine was involved in this survivor-style program.  We
> completely understand your concerns and we assure you that DAN does not,
in
> any way, endorse or promote this program.
>
> You have our assurance that we will express directly to the Publisher of
> Skin Diver your concerns over their "Subaquatic Survivor".
>
> Thank you again for your comments and for your continued support of DAN!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dan Orr
> Executive Vice President/COO
> Divers Alert Network
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnat@ao*.ne* [mailto:gnat@ao*.ne*]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:14 PM
> To: dan@di*.or*
> Subject: Online Inquiry: General Inquiry
>
>
>      From: David Whittle
>    E-Mail: gnat@ao*.ne*
>     Phone:
> Submitted: 1/11/02 4:13:42 PM
>
> Hello,
>     Below is a message I sent to Skin Diver. Since one DANs goals is to
> promote diver safety, I would like you to consider your relationship with
> Skin Diver. I have yet to see anything in their magazine of interest to me
> as I am interested in more than the typical OW vacation diving. But the
> last issue and this "Subaquatic Surviour" fall too far into the realm of
> bad taste and recklousness to keep quiet.
>     Personally I would much rather know that the money i'm spending for my
> membership and insurance with you is going to making diving (in all its
> forms) safer and helpping me should the worst happen than to get a
> worthless magazine in my mailbox each month.
>
> Thanks,
> -dave whittle
>
> Message to Skin Diver
> ---------------------
> Hello,
>     I'm a relatively new diver and have a subscription to your magazine
> via my DAN membership. My focus in diving is towards Technical and Cave.
> As such I have yet to see (though the February edition is only the third
> i've gotten) anything in it that I believe pertains to me, but understand
> that I do not fit your target audience and therefore have no objections in
> that respect. I have however seen two things from your magazine in the
> last two days that outright disgust me.
>     The first is the February edition with the "wetsuit" article. Based on
> the pictures and layout that was chosen I think it was just shy of needing
> to be limited to adults. I understand that "sex sells" but you were
> presenting an article that was supposed to help people in choosing their
> wetsuits and, to me, it came off as complete tripe.
>     The second issue is this "Subaquatic Survivor" stunt. As mentioned
> above I am working on becoming a Technical and Cave diver. Over the last
> 10 months or so, even before gaining my OW cert, I have been doing
> extensive research on the fields that i'm interested in and the ones I
> will have to go through to get there. The overriding point that I have
> found is that experience is everything in all forms of diving. As much as
> I would love to cram all the courses I need into a few short weeks as you
> are suggesting with this plan, I realistically know that there is no safe
> way to take divers at my level (just cert level and logged dives) (because
> your requirements aren't much higher than what I already have, i'm short
> on the dives) and progress them to the extreme levels in such a short
> manner. In all the accident (fatal and non) that I have read the majority
> have been caused by people that breezed through classes to get the certs
> they needed, but failed to get the practical experience between cert
> levels. That your primary audience is comprised of the OW vacation divers
> and you promote this trip with comments like "Want to brag to your buddies
> on your next dive trip about how you have been there and done that" is
> down right dangerous. Ego is NOT the reason to get into Technical diving,
> and it will get you killed because you will neglect the simple basic
> things in a rush to do it faster/longer/deeper (it has been proven time
> and again).
>     Because I get your magazine via my DAN membership I am also forwarding
> a copy of this email to them to urge them to break their ties with your
> magazine until you practice less reckless behaviors.
>
> Sincerely,
> David Whittle
> ###########################################
>
> This message has been scanned for viruses.
> Visit DAN @ http://www.DiversAlertNetwork.org
>

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