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From: "Don Burke" <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
To: "Simon L Hartley" <shartley@sc*.ed*.au*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: neutral AL 80's
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:54:53 -0500


----- Original Message -----
From: Simon L Hartley <shartley@sc*.ed*.au*>

> At 15:24 7/01/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > I'm pretty anal about entanglement hazards since I've been finding more
and
> >more monofilament and trolling wire around here over the last ten years
or
> >so.  I expect it is only a matter of time before I start finding that
> >fluorodammit stuff the fishermen here have started using.  They tell me
that
> >stuff is even harder to see than the mono.  With the damage I have done
to
> >my eyesight by working under dim red light, the last thing I need is to
be
> >tangled in something hard to see.
>
> Understood.  I'm doing a Cavern course in a few weeks and have decided to
> get rid of the tank weight for that anyway.  I think it would be
relatively
> easy to untangle a tank weight (swimming backwards might do it for a
simple
> snag) in most circumstances but why introduce another potential problem.
> Also, in low vis or night diving entanglement probably would be a bigger
> concern so to keep the kit the same it would seem logical to remove the
> tank weight.

I think it would be considerably harder than just backing up.  The line
would end up on my legs and it would get more complicated from there.
Skipping the extra equipment would be the best plan.


> >I've seen the stuff about a "mediated airway", (at least I think that's
what
> >it is called).  If that is an issue, I think I could do something with my
> >weightbelt to put more of the weight at my spine.  I've stopped using a
> >weighted STA and I'm being told strapping weights on tanks has very
limited
> >applications as well.
>
> What if you ditch your weight belt?  :-)

That's the easy part.  I'd be so positive that I could fall asleep on my
back.

>  It's not always easy to weight up
> the benefits and costs or identify where to draw the line between genuine
> concerns and paranoia.

True enough.

>  Is airway mitigation a genuine concern or not?

I think so.  If I'm in trouble with a wetsuit, I drop the belt.  With a
drysuit, I nail the drysuit inflator.  Since I'm wearing the weightbelt with
a wetsuit anyway,  I might as well make it as functional as I can.

> I
> can see how being able to ditch weight to stay on or ascend to the surface
> is of greater initial importance than a stable position on the surface (in
> the event you black out and there is no surface support).  I guess if
> entanglement is a major risk factor in some of the environments you dive
in
> then the logical approach (if you keep your kit pretty much the same)
would
> be to make this a higher priority and don't use tank weight at all?
> Although if you have a good buddy neither should present a real problem
(Oh
> wait, I forgot, we live in the real world)  ;-)

I like to do all the complicated stuff in blue jeans at 1ATM so that when I
hit the water, it is pretty simple.

v/r
Don

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