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From: "Don Burke" <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: neutral AL 80's
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:24:27 -0500
Hi Simon,

 I've been getting a bunch of feedback that I'm probably putting too much
air in the wing.  I'll be trying that before I screw with changing equiment.

 I'm pretty anal about entanglement hazards since I've been finding more and
more monofilament and trolling wire around here over the last ten years or
so.  I expect it is only a matter of time before I start finding that
fluorodammit stuff the fishermen here have started using.  They tell me that
stuff is even harder to see than the mono.  With the damage I have done to
my eyesight by working under dim red light, the last thing I need is to be
tangled in something hard to see.

I've seen the stuff about a "mediated airway", (at least I think that's what
it is called).  If that is an issue, I think I could do something with my
weightbelt to put more of the weight at my spine.  I've stopped using a
weighted STA and I'm being told strapping weights on tanks has very limited
applications as well.

 Thanks,
Don

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Simon L Hartley <shartley@sc*.ed*.au*>
 To: <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
 Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
 Sent: 06 January, 2002 20:54
 Subject: RE: neutral AL 80's


 > Hi Don,
>
> I'm not really sure I'm game to CC this to the list...  ...what the hell
> I'd rather be made to look a fool than keep doing the wrong thing.
>
> At 07:45 6/01/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>> As long as I've got you talking about weights on tanks, I have a minor
>> dilemma.  A portion of my diving is not technical by any stretch of the
>> imagination and involves quite a bit of time bobbing on the surface
>> waiting
>> for something (another diver, a tool, a camera, whatever).  With the
>> wing,
>> there is a tendency to pitch forward.
>
>> My old jacket BC is much better on the surface, but I'd rather not deal
>> with
>> it underwater.  Besides, it is getting old and I'd rather not replace it
>> when it dies.
>
> Before I bought my Halcyon Pioneer 27 a couple of years ago I experimented
> a little with surface flotation (using my old Scubapro stab jacket and a
> home made wing and harness).  Not stringent or exhaustive by any stretch
> of
> the imagination but I haven't seen any work on this so I thought it was
> worth playing around a little myself.  If there was little air in the tank
> (aluminium) then the jacket style BC would just as happily float me with
> my
> face in the water given half a chance.  Despite appearances jacket style
> BC's are not life jackets and are not, IMHO, designed to keep an
> unconscious divers face out of the water.  Air in a BC can stift to
> balance
> various competing forces (it's been a few years since I did my coxswains
> and had to learn about centre of buoyancy, centre of gravity, etc), life
> jackets usually have fixed foam flotation cells.
>
> FWIW, I feel the wings float you higher in the water even if they don't
> have that armchair feeling of a stab jacket.  I used stab jackets for
> nearly ten years but wouldn't go back.
>
>> I've been thinking of using one of those exercise weights on the tank,
>> but
>> would rather not introduce another entanglement point.
>
> I got the idea for a tank weight from the Halcyon web site (Halcyon make a
> couple of types of tank keel weight systems).  I didn't want to spend a
> fortune getting a hunk of lead sent out from the US so I used a standard
> three pound weight threaded through the top tank strap (I found six pounds
> annoying but may be more effective as a keel weight, the Halcyon weight is
> six pounds). There is a picture on my web site (under "Putting it all
> together" "Weighting and thermal protection")...
>
>   http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/esm/staff/pages/shartley/projects/gear/
>
> As far as being an entanglement risk possibly although it does fit snuggly
> to the tank and no problems to date.  Also increases your vertical profile
> though (I have the old style wing too which requires a STA, making matters
> worse).  I do feel this promotes a more stable face up position on the
> surface though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Simon

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