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From: "Esse" <enordesjo@ho*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Bondage wings inflation
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 23:57:45 +0100
Isnt it postings like these that just makes you realise how lucky you are to
no live and operate in the US :-)
Esse - Scandinavian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Rose" <TROSE@nc*.rr*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: den 21 december 2001 15:03
Subject: Re: Bondage wings inflation


> Capt JT.....
>
> I understand your concern....
>
> In the late 70's I was an expert witness in a wrongful death suit in a
cave
> death...My expertise was and is in air measurement. When I did that case,
I worked
> for EPA.   In the years since that, I have been an expert witness over 60
times in
> air pollution cases, acting for both plaintif and defendant in civil and
criminal
> cases including two wrongful death cases.
>
> From my limited experience, it is several groups causing
> most of the suits.
>
> 1. Survivors wanting to blame someone to get closure.
> 2. Lawyers wanting the cash......they go after anyone with deep pockets.
> 3. Parties involved in the death who want to blame someone
>     else because of real guilt or because they feel guilt for not
>     being able to help enough.
> 4. Persons who just want to exploit the situation.
>
> 5. Persons who want to punish those who were really guilty.
>     For example, the dive boat that left two divers on the
>     Barrier Reef. Usually the diver lost is the husband, father,
>     and bread winner of the family.  That is a major loss.
>
>
>
> Lawyers work by a code of ethics that most of us do not
> understand.  While they may not agree or even like their client,
> they are the clients advocate.  They often find themselves
> advocating positions that they do not agree with.  Like it or not
> it is the obligation of the opposing attorney to make sure that
> it doesn't work.  If both lawyers are good, the truth will come
> out.
>
> We are not going to change that.
>
> It does impact us as divers, particularly when we travel and
> get assigned a "buddy" on their first open water experience after
> training. It is not their fault that it is their first dive, I had a first
> dive too. Bet most of us did not skip to the 200th dive.
>
> It has driven me to mostly solo diving or diving with really good
> divers.
>
> It impacts all businesses and homeowners.  You have to have lots
> of insurance.  While the insurance companies "complain" about
> big settlements, they are croc tears.  Those settlements make
> people and companies buy bigger policies driving up profits.
>
> We ain't a gonna change that either.
>
> We ain't a gonna change human greed.
>
> Sorry for the bad news Capt JT, most of us are frustrated by
> the process too.
>
> Sorry for getting on the soapbox folks. The process hits my
> nerves even if I am involved.
>
> Putting on my nomex drawers getting ready for the
> flames from the groups listed in items 1,2,3,& 4.
>
> For the persons in item 5, I feel their pain.  If we take
> responsibility, we take responsibility.
>
> Getting down from the soapbox and suiting up.....
>
> Over 8,000 lifetime super stroke dives since 1951
> and still counting and three bad dives.
>
> Tom
>
> Capt JT wrote:
>
> > Doug
> > Thanks for your answers, I just keep finding it very disturbing that
these
> > lawsuits keep coming up against the buddy of the deceased diver.
> >
> > Maybe the lawyers that lurk on these list that look for accidents should
> > ask themselves "How many divers have I or will I kill by forcing them to
> > dive solo for fear of being sued".
> >
>
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