DIR is not a certification agency, moron.

--pina

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@ho*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:12 PM
To: 'Wendell Grogan'; 'Trey'
Cc: 'Quest@Gu*. Com'; 'Techdiver'
Subject: RE: DIR Fatalities


> That's reasonable.
> It gets back to the original question about if there were any
> fatalities
> involving people who were strictly following DIR rules.  It
> appears the
> answer is "no".

Wendell... by DIR definition; if you are following DIR rules
you will not die.

Which means; if you die diving, you weren't following DIR rules and also
means No one will ever die following DIR rules.

Would it be any different if every certification agency had a "rule" as
follows:

Rule Number 1:  The most important (Insert your favorite certification
agency here) rule is; Don't die while diving.

Then... if a person dies, everyone in the agency can say; "this person
wasn't following our rules".

Whether anyone dies Diving DIR or any other program doesn't make one little
difference because someone can always ALWAYS point to a reason a person died
and say "See... this person wasn't following our rules because..."

Can someone... ANYONE name a single SCUBA death (outside of equipment
failure) in which the deceased WASN'T breaking at least one of his/her
certification agency's rules?

I doubt anyone can.

Let me play your statement back to you with one small edit:

 It gets back to the original question about if there were any
 fatalities
 involving people who were strictly following PADI rules.  It
 appears the
 answer is "no".

Now... does this make PADI any better a certification agency?
No.

Just as the fact that no one has ever died diving DIR doesn't make it a
better certification agency.

People are not perfect therefore people WILL die when diving... regardless
of whether or not they were following the
"rules"

DIR is better, not because George says it is, or because no one has died...
it is better because it is virtually impossible to find a flaw in the logic
used by DIR... and when there is a flaw; DIR changes to correct it.

Now... how about everyone on the list go to their respective dive
certification agencies and have them add my rule number 1. above.  Then we
can quit discussing whether or not anyone ever dies following the rules and
concentrate on making diving safer for everyone.

Kind Regards,

Joe West





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