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From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Techdiver@Aquanaut. Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Dumb and Dumber - storing helium in improper containers
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:38:35 -0500

I have reached a new level of astonishment at just how stupid some of you
are.  Only a complete moron would "store" gas in the wrong cylinder.

It is one thing to partially fill bottles with the properly intended gas for
the DIR markings of the bottle and its intended use, and to indicate the
exact gases , pressures and dates on the mixing tape per DIR standards (ie,
starting to fill your 300 bottles with helium but not having enough pressure
to get any of them up to the desired mix until you get more bottles
delivered), and to finish your mixing later, but it is only the worst idiot
that would put helium in an oxygen bottle or oxygen beyond its
required level in a mix bottle .

Unmarked and most "stickered" scuba cylinders are widely expected to contain
air, and oxygen bottles are expected to contain oxygen, and properly marked
bottles are expected to have their correct mix when finished mixing, and do
not indicate any finishing of the mix until it is complete and analyzed.

You can not get jack shit for a transfill from a scuba cylinder of helium
into another tank unless you are using a haskel pump, but then the correct
thing to do is to mix the CORRECT gas in the CORRECT bottle and haskel where
needed, like on top of doubles, or use proper storage bottles.

The individual bottles in any bank of gas can be used completely up without
a haskel. There is no excuse for trying to "store" gas in an improper
container and sending back the storage bottle. Not for any perceived
"savings" by the nickelrockets who don't need to be doing this, and
certainly not for the 6 bucks rental fee per month.

There is no excuse for needing to take gas on a boat and not being able to
bring the correct storage or premixed bottles. Get another boat operator.
When we dive wall, we load the boat up with giant storage bottles and dive.
When we use my father's boat, we premix everything and breathe stages ( no
compressor on his boat, and it is a sportfishing boat). The last thing I
would do is any of the abjectly stupid suggestions made on here, and this
reinforces why I do not dive with strokes.

Some of you guys pay lip service to DIR, but by your own admission on here
you do not have a freaking  clue. The fact that the clueless include people
whom I thought were getting the message, or at least claiming they were. I
can not believe some of you are this
vapid. Thanks for the warning. Now I can see more bad influences to avoid.

On the other hand, I fully expect this level of dumb and dumber out of the
NE wreck divers. That and diving air on their doubles with stages of gas,and
the long list of other asinine practices that make no sense. You are excused
here, nobody expects you guys to have a clue. Just do not say you are "DIR",
because you are not in the ballpark with this kind of thinking.

While Chuck has apparently been unanimously voted the "Village Idiot" on
here , he has actually served a good purpose with this  as he has brought
the real cockroaches out of the cupboard accidentally, and of course he
threw some WKPP strokes under the bus as well, and probably saved me a lost
permit or two.

Those who pretend to be "DIR" divers yet do stupid things routinely are in
fact more dangerous than the idiots because they are a lot more convincing.
The real obvious dopes don't do anything that makes sense, so only another
dope or a newcomer will listen to them for a while, but the fake DIR guys
are really insidiously dangerous.

Dr. Black is right about DIR. It is a joke as practiced outside of the WKPP
and organizations that are involved with WKPP and have the pipeline to the
information. The pretenders on the WKPP have been summarily excused by me,
and no more will get in. Everyone who dives the teams in our organization
from now on will have to pass an interview with me and a dive with me.


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