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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C186FD.9745DAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, educate me please: >> died as a result of breathing 100% helium << I understand the political and human-error discussion of this unfortunate accident - but what's the operational purpose to EVER fill and carry a 100% He scuba cylinder ANYWHERE. What am I missing? I understand 100% He in designated storage bottles - and I can see it being used in CCRs - but why even FILL 100% He in cylinders that are designated for Scuba use? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 PS: Techdiver list disclaimer - please conserve bandwidth. The usual slander and personal attacks should be sent directly to my email address. I promise they will have the same effect. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Noe [mailto:chucknoe@ca*.co*] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:30 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Cc: quest@gu*.co*; Techdiver; Houston Cavers Subject: Re: DIR Fatalities George Irvine wrote: I can keep turning it up and turning it up, and don't give a shit about his family or anyone else. He lied to me and the team, made me look like an asshole So George is worried that Jonathan's terrible mistake and death "made (him) look like an asshole". That's really a sad comment. This shouldn't reflect on him or the WKPP. Jonathan was not participating in a WKPP event at the time of his death. He clearly violated DIR standards and died as a result of breathing 100% helium from what he thought was an O2 deco cylinder. Others should KNOW this so that his mistake will not be repeated. 1) Do not put helium in bottles indiscriminately. 2) Do not use bottles that are not marked properly. 3) Analyze everything (even oxygen). 4) Do not rush to resume diving following a serious illness. 5) Do not rush to do ANY dive. Take your time; be methodical. George can call me any name he prefers, but he cannot change the cause and outcome of this tragic accident. I do know that Jonathan would have wanted the truth to be known. Chuck ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C186FD.9745DAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D715001118-17122001>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D715001118-17122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D715001118-17122001>educate me=20 please:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D715001118-17122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D715001118-17122001><FONT=20 color=3D#008080>>> <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>died as = a result of=20 breathing 100% helium <<</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#008080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D715001118-17122001><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" = size=3D2>I=20 understand the political and human-error discussion of this=20 unfortunate accident - but what's the operational purpose to EVER = fill and=20 carry a 100% He scuba cylinder ANYWHERE. What am I missing? = I=20 understand 100% He in designated storage bottles - and I can see it = being used=20 in CCRs - but why even FILL 100% He in cylinders that are = designated for=20 Scuba use? </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D715001118-17122001><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" = color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2>Best=20 Regards<BR><B><I></I></B></FONT><B><I></I></B>< B><I><FONT face=3DGeorgia = color=3D#000080>Andy Schmidt</FONT></I></B><I><BR></I><BR><FONT=20 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D1>Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20=20 (Business)<BR>Fax: +1 201 934-9206</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D715001118-17122001><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" = color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D1>PS: Techdiver list disclaimer - please conserve bandwidth. The = usual=20 slander and personal attacks should be sent directly to my email = address. =20 I promise they will have the same effect.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chuck Noe=20 [mailto:chucknoe@ca*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 17, = 2001=20 11:30 AM<BR><B>To:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> = quest@gu*.co*;=20 Techdiver; Houston Cavers<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: DIR=20 Fatalities<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>George Irvine wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"><PRE>I can keep turning it up and turning it up, and don't give a shit about his family or anyone = else. He lied to me and the team, made me look like an asshole</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>So George is worried that Jonathan's terrible mistake and death = "made=20 (him) look like an asshole". That's really a sad comment.=20 <P>This shouldn't reflect on him or the WKPP. Jonathan was not = participating=20 in a WKPP event at the time of his death.=20 <P>He clearly violated DIR standards and died as a result of breathing = 100%=20 helium from what he thought was an O2 deco cylinder.=20 <P>Others should KNOW this so that his mistake will not be repeated.=20 <P>1) Do not put helium in bottles indiscriminately. <BR>2) Do not use = bottles=20 that are not marked properly. <BR>3) Analyze everything (even oxygen). = <BR>4)=20 Do not rush to resume diving following a serious illness. <BR>5) Do = not rush=20 to do ANY dive. Take your time; be methodical.=20 <P>George can call me any name he prefers, but he cannot change the = cause and=20 outcome of this tragic accident. I do know that Jonathan would have = wanted the=20 truth to be known.=20 <P>Chuck <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> =20 </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C186FD.9745DAB0-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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