At 07:22 AM 12/8/01 -0800, Michael J. Black wrote:
> 
>Refreshing to hear a reasoned, intelligent, non-profane, and
>civil response on Techdiver for a change.

Lots of other posts get civil responses.  Ever hear that you reap what you
sow?



>
>The problem with the WKPP and DIR, Isaac, is that they have
>no credibility in the scientific community, 

This bit of information will come as a great surprise to the numerous
members of the scientific community that come to Tallahassee to study the
methods of the WKPP (not to mention the scientists and engineers that are
members of the WKPP).


>and make up their
>own rules as they do their dives.

Well, when you are doing dives that exceed the limits of existing science
then that's what you have to do.  That's what exploration and research is
about.  If something hasn't been done before then by definition the rules
must be created to accomplish that task.


>  Their denial of diving
>accidents and fatalities in their ranks is legendary,

The WKPP acknowledges anytime there is an incident and uses that as a basis
for further refining protocols and safety procedures if necessary.   You
just want to define any accident or death involving anyone, anywhere that
has ever done a single dive with any member of the WKPP as a WKPP accident.

And just because you are not on the notification list doesn't mean that the
information isn't avaialble.


>so
>anything they do to disprove or challenge credible scientific
>data (US Navy, NOAA, DAN) is suspect.  Furthermore they claim
>that those agencies who have done the research and written the
>rules do not stay current with their data, another false claim.
>Add to this the fact that nearly all of them have to shout,
>lie, swear, threaten, and behave like juveniles to stay in an
>argument, and it is clear what the problem is.  They may do some
>impressive diving in their own world, but cannot expect the rest
>of the world to take them seriously.

Well, I remember seeing the US Navy at Wakulla taking data on WKPP decos.
Guess that means that the Navy's research involves looking at what the WKPP
is already doing.  But then you have already been given this information
and choose to ignore it since it does not fit in with your campaign of
attacking the WKPP.



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