Mike, NOAA is bullshit. WKPP ran their nitrox table testing in 1991 . We had
some people in the experiment and we were the safety divers. The experiment
showed us all how lame NOAA really is. After we pulled one moron from the
water who had lied on his medical ( seizure disorder), we bailed.

These guys have nothing anyone wants. NOAA is great for weather, and that is
it. Citing NOAA stats , etc. is like quoting from Harvard Lampoon.

The fact is that the WKPP has completely changed thinking on these subjects,
and while the Navy and commercial diving do have great stats on oxygen use
and gas mixtures and have made them available to me a long time ago, the
Navy, Duke and others now study us and look at how we do it to improve how
they do it in the field. Maybe I can start referring my phone calls from
several branches of the service who deal is "spec warfare" to phone NOAA or
TDI. When is the last time the Marine Corp , Army Special Forces , or Navy
Spec Warfare asked NOAA how to do something ( or better yet, TDI or IANTD).

You can go ask Dr. Commander Chimiak of Navy, Dr. Johansen of Navy ( the
Doppler guy ) and others like Duke University where the real answers have
come from in untethered, unhelmeted extreme exposure for both the best
methods to extend exposure safely and the fastest and most effective
decompression with the best results and the least damage.

All documented. Ask anyone who does what we do ( a short list, but they do
it our way or they don't get it done).

You sources of "information" ( NOAA, TDI, etc. ) are not in the loop., and
never will be for obvious reasons. NOAA is a half assed Government joke with
diving for misfits on the agenda, and of course organizations like TDI don't
have anything behind the curtain.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
>Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:39 AM
>To: Scott Hunsucker
>Cc: Aquanaut Mail
>Subject: Re: Oxygen Clock
>
>
>Nice grammar, Hunsucker..."must of heard" (try must've heard), "your a
>man" (try you're a man).  Nice profanities too.  And YOU are a medical
>student, Hunsucker?  Must've cheated your way into med school.
>
>Air breaks, or back gas breaks, are not a new concept, as you seem to
>think, Hunsucker.  NOAA and the U.S. Navy have been using them for much
>longer than you've probably been diving.  And since the CNS oxygen
>clock numbers AND pulmonary clock numbers were updated by NOAA in 2000,
>please keep trying to defend WKPP's 20,000% some more.  It's just so
>entertaining to hear you say it.
>
>MJB
>
>--- Scott Hunsucker <swhac@ho*.co*> wrote:
>>     Why doesn't he do this?  Because the dives that we do are beyond his
>> ability to comprehend.  The math alone you are asking him to do is too
>> complex for his calculator, let alone his mind.  I tried this last year
>> when I would respond (now he and his blithering shit are
>filtered, I'm just
>> having a bad day today) to every post our beloved village idiot would
>> make.  I did everything short of providing him written
>instructions on how
>> to do the math, he didn't do it then and he won't do it now.  The only
>> reason he even pokes his head out of his hole it to get people fired
>> up.  Most people use their computer to get off on porn, Black
>uses his to
>> get off on the responses we post.
>>     The 100% "maximum" he is quoting is old data.  Let me be the
>first to
>> introduce an alien concept to you Dr. Black, back gas breaks.  I am sure
>> you must of heard of them somewhere, yes?  You see the concept
>works like
>> this: the diver goes onto the lowest oxygen mix, and therefore
>highest He,
>> for that break depth, that will support life and spends 6 mins on
>> it.  After the break he spends another 18 mins on the deco gas, you see
>> "doc" 1.6 is 1.6 is 1.6 is 1.6, (you get the point yet) so you
>take on O2
>> throughout the dive and (something I am sure your afraid off)
>> decompression.  BG breaks allow a drop in O2 that lowers the problems
>> associated with the exposure.  The body can handle this, and still
>> decompress (actually functions better, but we won't go into
>that), since it
>> is still saturated with O2, see this way you get the benefits of
>O2 (here I
>> mean any deco gas, you know 1.6 is 1.6 is 1.6) decompression
>while lowering
>> the problems and the associated risk.  He, like most of the rest of the
>> world (hyperbaric medicine), is resting on their laurels and is too damn
>> afraid to step up and do something new.  Why do anything
>different when the
>> 20 year old stuff works, right?
>>     Black go back to fucking with people's eyes and leave the
>diving world
>> to those that aren't afraid to "step up and pet the pony."  Have
>you been
>> breathing 39% from your pony bottle at depth again?  Taken any
>more short
>> term 3.0 PPO2 spikes, come on your a man, you can handle them, it's only
>> for a short time, right?  The hyperthermia from living in that Arctic
>> Tundra hell hole you call home must be fucking with your cerebral
>> functioning again.  GO the fuck away!
>> Scott Hunsucker, yes the same Scott Hunsucker from the WKPP that
>posted the
>> damn information that got your fucking panties in a wad and your
>maxi pads
>> all bunched up.  Quit your fucking bitching and trying to be a
>hero to the
>> idiots and go hang out at 40' looking at the fish.
>>
>> At 11:47 AM 12/6/01 -0800, Sean T. Stevenson wrote:
>> >Mike, why don't you tell us how you manage your ogygen exposure when
>> >you consistently safely perform 14 hour decompressions from saturation
>> >at 300 fsw.  Come to think of it, why don't you ask the NOAA?
>> >
>> >-Sean
>>
>
>
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