By the way, I make both types of scooter now - the original Gavin and
another one that is made from HDPE and is tapered at the back, only mine
really is one piece and does not have the bullshit aluminum pipe with orings
as a motor compartment like the "submersion", does snot have the kluge
wiring like the submersion , and does not have the convoluted battery
arrangement nor the ridiculous "motorcycle handle".

My version is interchangeable with all Gavins I have made, and uses the same
internal parts, works the same way. For instance, mine has $68 cost of gold
connectors, my motor compartment is one with the tail, and the body is hard
pvc while the rest is soft HDPE. The nose keys the batteries.

I made this because I am sick of strokes copying our hard work and profiting
from it, like the submersion guy. This version of the scooter is cheaper to
produce than the Gavin, so I will be selling it cheaper, and a hell of a lot
cheaper than submersion.

I will also be maintaining the Gavins for our use and for those who want the
sure thing at the extreme depths that we know the Gavin is made for.

The only changes I am making to the Gavin are to offer the HDPE nose for
those who want it with the hard nose for super deep, and am using a screw in
reed switch if you want it to adjust the trigger more easily.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:28 AM
To: pina; E.N. Von; quest@gu*.co*
Subject: RE: scooters



The scooters pretty much all act the same regardless of size if they are
balanced correctly. Look at the pictures of JJ and I scootering and towing
magnum's. The big scooters have more lateral stability in motion so are
actually easier and more comfortable to ride than little ones.

Pina rides a magnum back to the far reaches of Manatee with no problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: pina [mailto:pina3@be*.ne*]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:44 PM
To: E.N. Von; quest@gu*.co*
Subject: RE: scooters



Just get a Gavin and DIR - no sense fluffing about with other stuff that
won't get you anywhere.

--pina

-----Original Message-----
From: E.N. Von [mailto:evlink2001@ho*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:25 PM
To: quest@gu*.co*
Subject: scooters


I am interesed in starting to learn to drive a scooter.  Can anyone give a
good suggestion for a starter scooter.  I have a feeling that a Gavin would
be quite a bit to handle for a new driver, but I may be wrong, having never
having the chance to see one in person.

Thanks in advance for you help.

E.N. Von
evlink2001@ho*.co*


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