Terry, I don't know about the 380, never had one, but I do know that the MK
20 has a ridiculous shim system for adjustment. If you do not take the shims
out, the pressure is way too high, and even after you do, you can not get it
down to 120 on most of them. Even when you do get the pressure down to an
acceptable level it does not last long, and begins to come back up again.
Some of our guys have tried altering the spring by compressing it for a long
time in a vise (futile bullshit), but most of our guys did the right thing -
Ebay, under the PT Barnum Theory.

I still have some , but i use them as safety bottle regs since they do last
being left in water,I can operate the valve when, not if they fail,  and the
only way a G 250 will work twice in a row is if it is not allowed to dry
out. An expensive mistake, even at the price of 125 charged to me by Scuba
Pro for each set. I still got fucked if you add in the repair bills.

Any new purchases by me are Apeks or Oceanic ( they have a some reliable
stuff that has lasted me with no problems). I have no repair parts for
either Apeks or Oceanic, and have never needed any. For Scuba Pro I have a
huge bag of parts given to me by the Navy when they threw in the towel on
this crap. I have had to use most of them and spent some 600 bucks last year
alone getting these things fixed.


-----Original Message-----
From: terry michael [mailto:OEA51@go*.co*]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 10:12 AM
To: Lee Bell; Trey; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Re: Scout bulbs


>stainless plate and 18 lb lift wing, breath the long hose on a Scuba Pro
>Mk-20/G250 with a R380 on a necklace.

R380? Isn’t that great little performer a stroke reg? It's a dead give away
in my opinion, R380 = STROKER. How many spacers you got in the Mk20's
anyway? ..he he he ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lee Bell"<leebell@ix*.ne*.co*>
To: "Trey"<trey@ne*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Wed Oct 24 06:31:54 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Scout bulbs

>Trey wrote:
>
>> "heat from shorted batteries" ?
>
>Yep.  Heat from shorted batteries.  It's a pretty routine event.  Salt
water
>shorts the battery and, presto, it heats up.  It's a pretty well known
>problem.  I'm surprised you didn't know about it.
>
>> Hello, Mom? Lee, have you ever actually been diving, and do you have any
>> experience with anything other than getting on dive lists and saying
>stupid ,
>> misinformed, ridiculous things and then trying to pretend you know what
>you are
>> talking about?
>
>Hello, Trey?  Did you forget that some of us dive in salt water?
>
>You seem to have a short memory or, perhaps, don't bother to read what
>others have to say, so I'll repeat it for you.  Yes, I go diving.  I
started
>in 1962 after a home course given by a YMCA instructor and have been active
>every since.  My first card came from NAUI in 1969 when it became hard to
>get air without one.  I did my cave diving back in the mid to late 60s.  It
>was nothing like what you're doing now, but it was extreme for recreational
>divers of the time.  I do something in the range of 50 dives a year.  I
>didn't record anything for the first 30 years and am still not real good
>about doing so.  I've had a boat of my own since I was 6.  If I count my
>kayak and inflatable, I have 4 diveable boats at the moment and have made
an
>offer on another.  I live in the same county as you do, know some of the
>same people and, when I use a commercial operator, dive off of some of the
>same boats you do.  I dive almost exclusively salt water.  I have a Haclyon
>stainless plate and 18 lb lift wing, breath the long hose on a Scuba Pro
>Mk-20/G250 with a R380 on a necklace.  I have two scout lights on the
>harness at all times.  I also have a Halcyon aluminum plate that I'm
>configuring for dive travel.  All of this was purchased from a store you
>know well, it's right next door to the Southport Raw Bar.  Remember the
>place?  It's called Brownies.
>
>My Scout light flooded, so did another posters.  When mine did, I went back

>to Brownies.  They are the ones who told me about the problem reflectors
>from UK.  I didn't come up with it, I just repeated it here.  I also said
>that the light is robust and that it was replaced promptly as I expected it
>would be.  I believe I had some nice things to say about the light, the
>shop, the the manufacturer and the CEO of the company.  Which of these do
>you not agree with?
>
>> I know the history of all of these pieces of equipment and am involved in
>> the evolution of every one of them. Just to correct your other piece of
>> bullshit, there are two basic similar light heads that those guys make,
>and
>> one will not fit where the other is designed to go - at all.
>
>Well, then I suppose the folks at Brownies were wrong.  Be sure to tell
them
>next time you stop into the shop.
>
>> The problem is as I was saying, and a leaking light needs to be returned
>or thrown
>> away, not taken on dives.
>
>You seem to be having a problem with reading.  Nobody, and certainly not
me,
>said that a leaking light should be taken on a dive, ever.  I said I
>returned mine and it was replaced.  It seems that we agree on a key
element.
>Not bad for a moron.  Perhaps you throw away $80 lights that fail, but most
>of us prefer to return them for a refund or replacement, as I did.  It also
>seems that I have a higher opinion of the Scout light than you do.  I don't
>expect a light that expensive to fail the second time it hits the water, as
>mine did.  I expected the light to work consistently and reliably
>specifically because it was developed for an environment that is
unforgiving
>of equipment failures and is manufacturered by someone who appears to care
>about the quality of his products.  When the light did not live up to my
>expectations, I looked into why and got an answer that satisfied me.  If it
>had not, I would not be using Scout lights today.  If the answer is wrong,
>then perhaps I should stop using them now.  Is that your recommendation?
>Tell me quickly because I'm about to introduce another diver to equipment
JJ
>makes and if there's a quality problem, I'd like to know about it.
>
>> You are not, do not, and have never been involved in anything but
bullshit
>> on the web. You are the best example of what Capt JT is always
complaining
>> about .
>
>No, I'm the best example of what you are always complaining about, a diver
>who bothers to think for himself and make his own informed decisions on
>equipment and diving issues.  You're just going to have to live with the
>fact that not everyone thinks that blindly following another, even if it's
>you, is a real great idea.  I've learned a lot directly and indirectly from
>members of your team, but since I have no desire or expectation of joining
>your team, you'll just have to get over the fact that I can and will think
>and decide for myself.
>
>Lee
>
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