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From: sumpcaver@at*.ne*
To: "John R. Strohm" <strohm@ai*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DIR knots
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 13:08:55 +0000
Mr Strohm,

You can not pass a knot through a pulley or block unless 
you are using a knot passing pulley, block or carriage.  

There are two variations on the figure eight,  the 
figure eight follow through and the figure eight on a 
bight.

Of course, a large diameter rope will result in a large 
knot.  We are talking about cave line here, small stuff, 
right?  

Please tell me what knot is as strong, is as easy to 
tie/untie and has a low profile. Will you stake your 
life on it?

You don't need an encyclopedia of knots, you'll lose 
your mind.  It's best to leave that on the coffee table 
for company to look at unless you want to embellish your 
yacht with knotcraft. Most people that depend on knots 
use only a core group of about 5 knots,  with only a few 
knots you can cover just about any situation.

Erik
sumpcaver@at*.ne*
> I've never seen a figure eight knot used to attach something to something
> else.  I've always seen it to make a "lump" in the end of a line, to keep it
> from slipping through e.g. a block (pulley).
> 
> Any good boat store will have at least one good book on knots and their
> applications.  Best Publishing sells at least one, possibly two or three.
> Royce's "Sailing Illustrated" (a very old, very good book on all aspects of
> sailing and sailboats) had an excellent chapter on knots and appropriate
> applications.  The Boy Scout Handbook USED to have some very good
> information on the subject, but I haven't seen a Boy Scout Handbook in over
> twenty years.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: erik tesnau <sumpcaver@wo*.at*.ne*>
> To: Christopher Brown <hokiediver@ya*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: DIR knots
> 
> 
> > Probably not DIR but here's what I use...
> >
> > Figure eight.
> >
> > Very fast to tie, secondary in strength only to figure nine.  You can tie
> > the eight easily underwater even without seeing it.  It will not unravel
> or
> > creep like other knots will.  If it does not look pretty and clean you did
> > something wrong - retie it.  An added bonus is that it is easy to untie if
> > needed, even after being loaded.  If you are uncomfortable with that, you
> > can always back it up with a fishermans knot.
> >
> > I rock climb and vertical cave and use several types of knots, this is one
> > knot you can bet your life on.
> >
> > There are a lot of knot sites on the web...
> >
> > Erik
> > sumpcaver@at*.ne*
> >
> >
> >
> > > Can someone point me to the DIR knot for attaching
> > > reels to its hardware (i.e. snaps)?  Maybe a picture
> > > or a name of the knot?
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Brown
> > > Suffolk, VA
> > >
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