Sometimes I know I can be over protective on those kinds of trips and you 
took my abuse as one of the new guys before I was able to relax with you. I 
think after what you saw on the Doria trip you can understand more clearly 
why I am that way.

In fact I think most of the guys who dive with me would think something was 
wrong if I didn't worry so much about the little details.


  At 04:28 AM 10/2/01 -0400, The Student wrote:
>For those of you that are reading this thread you should check out under
>the stories section on JT's web site  ( www.capt-jt.com/Dive_Stories.htm
>) and read the 2 stories- Newbie W/Doubles. You can see what JT goes
>through.... and I bet Trey has got some good stories too on how people
>want to join him on his dives. I'm personally very happy with the
>guidance that JT gave him. The Newbie went out and got more training and
>has been doing the dives not just reading how to dive. I've got a good
>dive buddy and a good personal friend because of it today.
>
>And NO I'm not the Newbie W/Doubles... ( I was never that good when I
>started ) but I will say that JT is a mother hen when it comes to divers
>doing "new" advanced dives, look at his pictures before and after the
>last Doria trip he made, that's a lot of gray hair!
>
>
>The Student.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: terry michael [mailto:OEA51@go*.co*]
>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:54 PM
>To: Capt JT; techdiver
>Subject: Re: Re: Number of logged dives
>
>I personally could care less who the applicants are, if not "well known"
>then you are just asking for even more stress which could lead to an
>accident.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Capt JT"<captjt@mi*.co*>
>To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>, "techdiver"<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Date: Sun Sep 30 19:02:08 PDT 2001
>Subject: Re: Number of logged dives
>
> >Terry, first, you don't even know who the applicants were/are, I have
>not
> >ever disclosed that info. Dave and Jim have seen some because I like to
>
> >prove I'm right to those around me sometimes, but  even they don't see
>them
> >all. Second, how do you know or don't know what I do to evaluate divers
>
> >skills. Here let me give you a clue, most of the guys who really can do
>the
> >dives are well known, it is a small circle of divers that do it and
>just
> >having completed a class doesn't cut it. No one gets on my trips unless
>I
> >know you or someone I know puts their NECK out for you.
> >
> >I am not talking about all VBtech trips, I am talking about the trips
>that
> >I put together. These are usually extreme in depth (beyond 300ft) or
>some
> >other risk like the inside of the "Marine Electric" or the Doria trips.
> >
> >Dave handles most of the other trips. That may be expanded next year so
>
> >some of the other guys can feel the stress of handling the trips.
> >
> >Sure I would like to see everyone dive a shallow wreck first, but
>that's
> >not always possible.
> >
> >At 05:34 PM 9/30/01 -0700, terry michael wrote:
> >>I disagree the best way in my opinion to sort these guys out is
>shallow
> >>wreck to test skill level. Also make them plan some dives along with
>the
> >>contingences. You'll find many of your deep wreck applicants don't
> >>understand the basics and are a clusterf*ck in the water, even if they
>do
> >>have all the right equipment.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: "Capt JT"<captjt@mi*.co*>
> >>To: "The McLeods"<rmmacleod@ac*.ca*>,
> >>"techdiver"<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >>Date: Sat Sep 29 18:18:46 PDT 2001
> >>Subject: Re: Number of logged dives
> >>
> >> >Randy, I have rejected many divers request to do the deep wrecks
>with me,
> >> >not based on the logged number of dives they "say" they have, but
>the way
> >> >they say it, in a matter of just a few emails I can pick out the
>lairs or
> >> >losers most of the time. If I ask for a reference, you better have a
>good
> >> >one. I have a list of emails I have saved from divers wanting to go
>on
> >> >trips with me and I denied them access and saw later that they were
>injured
> >> >or died on a dive, I can almost always pick them out.
> >> >
> >> >  At 08:21 PM 9/22/01 -0300, The McLeods wrote:
> >> >>Hi JT,I know you can't be serious about dive number's.400 ocean
>dives in
> >> >>the caribean mean's jack shit!The number of dives,or exagerated
>figures
> >> >>most guy's throw around mean's nothing.The quality of the
> >> >>dives,condition's experieced,skills of the people you dive with and
>many
> >> >>other factor's seperate the real diver's from wannabees.Regards
>Randy
> >> >
> >> >"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
>in the
> >> >water"
> >> >Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> >> >  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> >> >Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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