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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 21:06:35 -0400
To: trey@ne*.co* (Trey), <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: RE: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01
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Trey, keep working on him, there is hope.....he stills lacks the experience 
to back up his post.

At 07:35 AM 9/22/01 -0400, Trey wrote:
>
>JT et al, my guys think Dwayne will be one of our better assets so they 
>are giving him their full training attention. From my perspective, he has 
>the right raw material, and is the kind of person we need more of on our 
>team and elsewhere.
>
>We all learn someplace, and I' won't even bet you , I will tell you , 
>there is no better place to learn than the WKPP.
>
>I like guys who know the importance and value of life , know what the term 
>"teamwork" means, and know how important that is to staying alive when you 
>play for real like we do, or when you play at it like the pretenders he is 
>commenting on.
>
>Unfortunately, there are strokes out there like Pizzio and his dead 
>comrade whose actions are so obviously stupid and unthinking that one does 
>not need to even know about diving to see that. There are also people out 
>there who set the worst possible example and then play tough guy like 
>Pizzio, the great FBI agent who acts more like the Lone Ranger. Hopefully 
>that is not how he conducts his job, or maybe that explains a lot about 
>why we got surprised by Osama if the rest of his agency operates with his 
>"every man for himself"  attitude. I guarantee that in the Marine Corp 
>they don't act like Pizzio, and it is no accident that  Marine can spot 
>this kind of bullshit.
>
>Read Pizzio and read Dwayne, and tell me who you want covering you back, 
>and who you want on your team. It looks like Pizzio has had one too many 
>dives and so ( obviously ) has Reichart.
>
>Again, solo diving with a rebreather is the dumbest fucking thing I have 
>ever head of, and I am not even remotely interested in the opinion of 
>anyone stupid enough to do it or condone it, and I am sure sick of 
>listening to the accident reports from the rest of the strokes who keep 
>doing it over and over.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Duane Liptak Jr. [mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*]
>>Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:18 PM
>>To: Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>Subject: Re: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01
>>
>>JT, I'm terribly sorry that you feel so threatened by little old 
>>me.  Just go off in your little corner and keep repeating the "I'm the 
>>greatest diver that ever lived" mantra that you seem so fond of.  It must 
>>be that when your bullshit meanderings don't fly, you feel compelled to 
>>attack the messenger for lack of the ability to post a substantive rebuttal.
>>
>> >Well gee, I don't know which one to really address here, I got Duane
>> >Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert techdiver in 6 months " or Scott
>> >Nutsucker "I dove with him and his dick feels as hard as a rock".
>>
>>Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you think we've never heard 
>>this schoolyard shit?  Grow up.  Or, at least come up with something a 
>>little more original.
>>
>> >in 6 months this guy has dived enough, while
>> >holding down a full time job, while also moving around, to dispense how to
>> >and what went wrong information,
>>
>>JT, I'm not going to waste my time pontificating on my greatness and my 
>>abilities, as you are so apt to do.  Everything I post is based on what I 
>>have done--not what I've heard, not what I've read, and not what I 
>>theorize.  I have never posted anything that hasn't come from my direct 
>>experience, as limited as you think it is.  If you can find fault in 
>>anything I've said, argue the content.  As I said before, I've had a 
>>unique opportunity to dive with and learn from the pros, mainly because 
>>I'm willing to listen to what works instead of proclaiming my own 
>>greatness.  If I can pass on any knowledge I've gained in the spirit it 
>>was given to me, then I am happy.   I have a simple system for just about 
>>everything I do.  Find out what works, practice relentlessly, and never 
>>become complacent.  If you put half as much effort into your whole life 
>>as I put into just my hobbies, maybe you could afford a decent haircut.
>>
>> >Let me guess, he's a
>> >Navy Seal too.
>>
>>No, I would never subject myself to Navy dive training.  I'm a plain, 
>>regular, United States Marine.  I was an enlisted grunt for a while, and 
>>now I fly.  I only bring that up because the Marine Corps lets me fly 
>>aircraft with engines that cost more than most people's houses, and they 
>>let me do it with far fewer flights than I have logged dives.  It's 
>>amazing what proper training and hard work can do when applied within a 
>>framework of tested and proven methods.
>>
>> > What a fucking joke..... Better make sure his checks cash
>> >before he does a real dive.
>>
>>Here's where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT.  I learned to 
>>dive from people who are my friends and teammates, and were willing to 
>>devote unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my betterment.  All I 
>>have ever been asked for in return is my friendship and a little 
>>well-deserved loyalty.  There are no checks to cash.  I have been taught, 
>>trained, and tested by people who care about me and about my skill 
>>development.  If you were taught, way back before you were such a dive 
>>stud,  by people who did it for the cash, then I'm sorry.  You got fucked.
>>
>>I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your trip with bated breath.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>1stLt  DL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in 
>the water"
>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>

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Trey, keep working on him, there is hope.....he stills lacks the
experience to back up his post.<br>
<br>
At 07:35 AM 9/22/01 -0400, Trey wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite> <br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">JT et al, my guys think Dwayne
will be one of our better assets so they are giving him their full
training attention. From my perspective, he has the right raw material,
and is the kind of person we need more of on our team and
elsewhere.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">We all learn someplace, and I'
won't even bet you , I will tell you , there is no better place to learn
than the WKPP.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">I like guys who know the
importance and value of life , know what the term "teamwork"
means, and know how important that is to staying alive when you play for
real like we do, or when you play at it like the pretenders he is
commenting on.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Unfortunately, there are
strokes out there like Pizzio and his dead comrade whose actions are so
obviously stupid and unthinking that one does not need to even know about
diving to see that. There are also people out there who set the worst
possible example and then play tough guy like Pizzio, the great FBI agent
who acts more like the Lone Ranger. Hopefully that is not how he conducts
his job, or maybe that explains a lot about why we got surprised by Osama
if the rest of his agency operates with his "every man for
himself"  attitude. I guarantee that in the Marine Corp they
don't act like Pizzio, and it is no accident that  Marine can spot
this kind of bullshit. </font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Read Pizzio and read Dwayne,
and tell me who you want covering you back, and who you want on your
team. It looks like Pizzio has had one too many dives and so ( obviously
) has Reichart.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Again, solo diving with a
rebreather is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever head of, and I am not
even remotely interested in the opinion of anyone stupid enough to do it
or condone it, and I am sure sick of listening to the accident reports
from the rest of the strokes who keep doing it over and 
over.</font><br>
 <blockquote><font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dl>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From:</b> Duane Liptak Jr.
[<a href="mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*"
eudora="autourl">mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*</a>]
<dd>Sent:</b> Friday, September 21, 2001 9:18 PM
<dd>To:</b> Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt,
9/16/01<br>
<br>
</font>
<dd>JT, I'm terribly sorry that you feel so threatened by little old
me.  Just go off in your little corner and keep repeating the
"I'm the greatest diver that ever lived" mantra that you seem
so fond of.  It must be that when your bullshit meanderings don't
fly, you feel compelled to attack the messenger for lack of the ability
to post a substantive rebuttal. <font face="arial" size=2>
<dd> </font>
<dd>>Well gee, I don't know which one to really address here, I got
Duane 
<dd>>Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert techdiver in 6 months
" or Scott 
<dd>>Nutsucker "I dove with him and his dick feels as hard as a
rock".
<dd> 
<dd>Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you think we've never heard
this schoolyard shit?  Grow up.  Or, at least come up with
something a little more original.
<dd> <font size=2>
<dd>>in 6 months this guy has dived enough, while 
<dd>>holding down a full time job, while also moving around, to
dispense how to 
<dd>>and what went wrong information,</font>
<dd> 
<dd>JT, I'm not going to waste my time pontificating on my greatness and
my abilities, as you are so apt to do.  Everything I post is based
on what I have done--not what I've heard, not what I've read, and not
what I theorize.  I have never posted anything that hasn't come from
my direct experience, as limited as you think it is.  If you can
find fault in anything I've said, argue the content.  As I said
before, I've had a unique opportunity to dive with and learn from the
pros, mainly because I'm willing to listen to what works instead of
proclaiming my own greatness.  If I can pass on any knowledge I've
gained in the spirit it was given to me, then I am happy.   I
have a simple system for just about everything I do.  Find out what
works, practice relentlessly, and never become complacent.  If you
put half as much effort into your whole life as I put into just my
hobbies, maybe you could afford a decent haircut.
<dd> <font size=2>
<dd>>Let me guess, he's a 
<dd>>Navy Seal too.</font>
<dd> 
<dd>No, I would never subject myself to Navy dive training.  I'm a
plain, regular, United States Marine.  I was an enlisted grunt for a
while, and now I fly.  I only bring that up because the Marine Corps
lets me fly aircraft with engines that cost more than most people's
houses, and they let me do it with far fewer flights than I have logged
dives.  It's amazing what proper training and hard work can do when
applied within a framework of tested and proven methods.
<dd> <font size=2>
<dd>> What a fucking joke..... Better make sure his checks cash 
<dd>>before he does a real dive.</font>
<dd> 
<dd>Here's where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT.  I
learned to dive from people who are my friends and teammates, and were
willing to devote unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my
betterment.  All I have ever been asked for in return is my
friendship and a little well-deserved loyalty.  There are no checks
to cash.  I have been taught, trained, and tested by people who care
about me and about my skill development.  If you were taught, way
back before you were such a dive stud,  by people who did it for the
cash, then I'm sorry.  You got fucked. 
<dd> 
<dd>I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your trip with bated
breath.
<dd> 
<dd>Sincerely,
<dd> 
<dd>1stLt  DL
<dd> 
<dd> 
<dd> 
<dd> 
<dd> 
<dd> 
</dl></blockquote><br>

"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
in the water"<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><u>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East
Coast & more <br>
 Web Site 
<a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</a><br>
Email     captjt@mi*.co*<br>
<br>
</font></u></html>

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