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Carla, we all have had this same problem at some point , either when we
started out or as we found our way. I have been subjected to all the same
things you talk about and I have had to dive with morons in the beginning,
but then as things happened, I shaped my level of tolerance.
Now I just try to stay associated with divers who dive regularly and who can
muster a quorum to reserve a boat. Sooner or later, Karla, the better
operators will start preferring that kind of trip. There are a lot of people
who like to spear fish and so forth, so you should be able to find comrades
for that. For wreck diving there are a lot of people. The hard dive to find
is the one I like - the 100 foot drift dive on the edge of the reef.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dogtrner1@ao*.co* [mailto:Dogtrner1@ao*.co*]
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 8:46 PM
To: trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; FlTechDiver@mikey.net
Subject: Was Dead Diver Now whether or not solo diving is an option
In a message dated 9/23/2001 6:45:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
trey@ne*.co* writes:
Joel, you are right on this one - everyone seems to have this problem
finding people to dive with.
George,
This past summer I was, by the grace of god, able to quit my job and dive
almost every day, sometimes both morning, afternoon and night (at least one
night a week)
Granted not every dive was a tech dive:) However, finding someone that
could have invested that kind of money and time was simply impossible.
Hence, I had no choice but to dive solo. When I was guiding dives, I
still had to consider myself a solo diver, because I was diving with people
with one or two dives, or people who had not dove in a year or more.
Now that winter is here--sort of. Diving has slacked off since Labor Day,
I will have the opportunity to dive with some people, as the boats will be
more limited.
However, we still run into the problem--not so much with tech dives,
because I spear fish. (Believe me, I don't do that at night, nor do I do it
after certain depths--usually 150 or so.)
So what is a person to do? I will not stop diving. I will not not dive.
It is my sanity and my savior. And who wants to be in the water with a
person that you have to watch the entire dive (a stranger, who happens to be
on the boat)? I don't really have the money to waste (45.00 a trip for
recreational, and 60.00 a trip for tech) to call the dive simply because
there is no one on the boat that I feel comfortable diving with.
I had that happen this summer.
I had an instructor who advocated drinking immediately after a dive when
he was fully expecting to do another dive (he was *teaching* a tech class).
And there were a whole lot of other problems on that first day of diving (we
did the Rodeo the first dive---couldn't get on the Guy Harvey due to as
fishing boat on the wreck) To the point that I went to my instructor, who
also owns the boat, and told him I would not get in the water the next
several days, even tho I had already paid for the dives. That was an
extremely dangerous situation.
Now, you and I discussed that situation privately----and I would ask that
the names be kept silent, as that *instructor* is still under investigation
by two organizations.
However, as a matter of aside, I would like, in a separate post, discuss
all the problems that I saw on those dives, and get some *positive*
feedback. I am not interesting in attacks, but rather some learning, if
everyone is open,
Let me know
Karla Clinch
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we all have had this same problem at some point , either when we started =
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as we found our way. I have been subjected to all the same things you =
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and I have had to dive with morons in the beginning, but then as things=20
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just try to stay associated with divers who dive regularly and who can =
muster a=20
quorum to reserve a boat. Sooner or later, Karla, the better operators =
will=20
start preferring that kind of trip. There are a lot of people who like =
to spear=20
fish and so forth, so you should be able to find comrades for that. For =
wreck=20
diving there are a lot of people. The hard dive to find is the one I =
like - the=20
100 foot drift dive on the edge of the reef.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Dogtrner1@ao*.co*=20
[mailto:Dogtrner1@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 23,
2001 =
8:46=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com;=20
FlTechDiver@mikey.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Was Dead Diver Now whether
or =
not=20
solo diving is an option<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT=20
size=3D2>In a message dated 9/23/2001 6:45:52 PM Eastern Daylight =
Time,=20
trey@ne*.co* writes: <BR><BR><BR>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">Joel, you are right on this one - everyone seems to have =
this=20
problem <BR>finding people to dive with. </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#000000 size=3D3 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>George, =
<BR><BR>This=20
past summer I was, by the grace of god, able to quit my job and dive =
almost=20
every day, sometimes both morning, afternoon and night (at least one =
night a=20
week) <BR><BR>Granted not every dive was a tech dive:) However, =
finding=20
someone that could have invested that kind of money and time was =
simply=20
impossible. <BR><BR>Hence, I had no choice but to dive solo. =
When I was=20
guiding dives, I still had to consider myself a solo diver, because I =
was=20
diving with people with one or two dives, or people who had not dove =
in a year=20
or more. <BR><BR>Now that winter is here--sort of. Diving has =
slacked=20
off since Labor Day, I will have the opportunity to dive with some =
people, as=20
the boats will be more limited. <BR><BR>However, we still run into the =
problem--not so much with tech dives, because I spear fish. =
(Believe me,=20
I don't do that at night, nor do I do it after certain depths--usually =
150 or=20
so.) <BR><BR>So what is a person to do? I will not stop diving. =
I=20
will not not dive. It is my sanity and my savior. And who =
wants to=20
be in the water with a person that you have to watch the entire dive =
(a=20
stranger, who happens to be on the boat)? I don't really have =
the money=20
to waste (45.00 a trip for recreational, and 60.00 a trip for tech) to =
call=20
the dive simply because there is no one on the boat that I feel =
comfortable=20
diving with. <BR><BR>I had that happen this summer. <BR><BR>I had
an=20
instructor who advocated drinking immediately after a dive when he was =
fully=20
expecting to do another dive (he was *teaching* a tech class). =
And there=20
were a whole lot of other problems on that first day of diving (we did =
the=20
Rodeo the first dive---couldn't get on the Guy Harvey due to as =
fishing boat=20
on the wreck) To the point that I went to my instructor, who =
also owns=20
the boat, and told him I would not get in the water the next several =
days,=20
even tho I had already paid for the dives. That was an extremely =
dangerous situation. <BR><BR>Now, you and I discussed that situation=20
privately----and I would ask that the names be kept silent, as that=20
*instructor* is still under investigation by two organizations.=20
<BR><BR>However, as a matter of aside, I would like, in a separate =
post,=20
discuss all the problems that I saw on those dives, and get some =
*positive*=20
feedback. I am not interesting in attacks, but rather some learning, =
if=20
everyone is open, <BR><BR>Let me know <BR>Karla Clinch</FONT>=20
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