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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:47:00 +0300
From: "Manos Manoli" <cytech@ma*.co*.cy*>
To: Dogtrner1@ao*.co*, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Was Dead Diver Now whether or not solo diving is an option

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Although i used to spear fish at my first years of diving i finally 
found that
spear guns and diving do not match at all. I would cancel my diving if
there is even one diver holding a spear gun on the boat. I would cancel  
my dive if i haven't got a buddy and i will cancel my diving or i would stay
on recreational limits if there is no tekkies available which i would
trust my life to.  For sure i will be on my bad side for the rest of
the day but i will try to do something else trying not to think of
it. Probably i will water ski for the rest of the day or plan some
olive trees in my garden.

No excuse for solo .

Manos.

Dogtrner1@ao*.co* wrote:

> In a message dated 9/23/2001 6:45:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> trey@ne*.co* writes:
>
>
>> Joel, you are right on this one - everyone seems to have this problem
>> finding people to dive with. 
>
>
>
> George,
>
> This past summer I was, by the grace of god, able to quit my job and 
> dive almost every day, sometimes both morning, afternoon and night (at 
> least one night a week)
>
> Granted not every dive was a tech dive:)  However, finding someone 
> that could have invested that kind of money and time was simply 
> impossible.
>
> Hence, I had no choice but to dive solo.  When I was guiding dives, I 
> still had to consider myself a solo diver, because I was diving with 
> people with one or two dives, or people who had not dove in a year or 
> more.
>
> Now that winter is here--sort of.  Diving has slacked off since Labor 
> Day, I will have the opportunity to dive with some people, as the 
> boats will be more limited.
>
> However, we still run into the problem--not so much with tech dives, 
> because I spear fish.  (Believe me, I don't do that at night, nor do I 
> do it after certain depths--usually 150 or so.)
>
> So what is a person to do?  I will not stop diving.  I will not not 
> dive.  It is my sanity and my savior.  And who wants to be in the 
> water with a person that you have to watch the entire dive (a 
> stranger, who happens to be on the boat)?  I don't really have the 
> money to waste (45.00 a trip for recreational, and 60.00 a trip for 
> tech) to call the dive simply because there is no one on the boat that 
> I feel comfortable diving with.
>
> I had that happen this summer.
>
> I had an instructor who advocated drinking immediately after a dive 
> when he was fully expecting to do another dive (he was *teaching* a 
> tech class).  And there were a whole lot of other problems on that 
> first day of diving (we did the Rodeo the first dive---couldn't get on 
> the Guy Harvey due to as fishing boat on the wreck)  To the point that 
> I went to my instructor, who also owns the boat, and told him I would 
> not get in the water the next several days, even tho I had already 
> paid for the dives.  That was an extremely dangerous situation.
>
> Now, you and I discussed that situation privately----and I would ask 
> that the names be kept silent, as that *instructor* is still under 
> investigation by two organizations.
>
> However, as a matter of aside, I would like, in a separate post, 
> discuss all the problems that I saw on those dives, and get some 
> *positive* feedback. I am not interesting in attacks, but rather some 
> learning, if everyone is open,
>
> Let me know
> Karla Clinch



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Although i used to spear fish at my first years of diving i finally found
that<br>
spear guns and diving do not match at all. I would cancel my diving if<br>
there is even one diver holding a spear gun on the boat. I would cancel
 <br>
my dive if i haven't got a buddy and i will cancel my diving or i would
stay<br>
on recreational limits if there is no tekkies available which i would<br>
trust my life to.  For sure i will be on my bad side for the rest of<br>
the day but i will try to do something else trying not to think of<br>
it. Probably i will water ski for the rest of the day or plan some<br>
olive trees in my garden.<br>
<br>
No excuse for solo .<br>
<br>
Manos. <br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:Dogtrner1@ao*.co*">Dogtrner1@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
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In a message dated 9/23/2001 6:45:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</a>
writes: <br>
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Joel, you are right on this one - everyone seems to have this problem <br>
finding people to dive with. </font></font></blockquote>
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George, <br>
    <br>
This past summer I was, by the grace of god, able to quit my job and dive
almost every day, sometimes both morning, afternoon and night (at least one
night a week) <br>
    <br>
Granted not every dive was a tech dive:)  However, finding someone that
could
have invested that kind of money and time was simply impossible. <br>
    <br>
Hence, I had no choice but to dive solo.  When I was guiding dives, I still
had to consider myself a solo diver, because I was diving with people with
one or two dives, or people who had not dove in a year or more. <br>
    <br>
Now that winter is here--sort of.  Diving has slacked off since Labor Day,
I will have the opportunity to dive with some people, as the boats will be
more limited. <br>
    <br>
However, we still run into the problem--not so much with tech dives, because
I spear fish.  (Believe me, I don't do that at night, nor do I do it after
certain depths--usually 150 or so.) <br>
    <br>
So what is a person to do?  I will not stop diving.  I will not not
dive.
 It is my sanity and my savior.  And who wants to be in the water
with a
person that you have to watch the entire dive (a stranger, who happens to
be on the boat)?  I don't really have the money to waste (45.00 a trip for
recreational, and 60.00 a trip for tech) to call the dive simply because
there is no one on the boat that I feel comfortable diving with. <br>
    <br>
I had that happen this summer. <br>
    <br>
I had an instructor who advocated drinking immediately after a dive when
he was fully expecting to do another dive (he was *teaching* a tech class).
 And there were a whole lot of other problems on that first day of diving
(we did the Rodeo the first dive---couldn't get on the Guy Harvey due to
as fishing boat on the wreck)  To the point that I went to my instructor,
who also owns the boat, and told him I would not get in the water the next
several days, even tho I had already paid for the dives.  That was an
extremely
dangerous situation. <br>
    <br>
Now, you and I discussed that situation privately----and I would ask that
the names be kept silent, as that *instructor* is still under investigation
by two organizations. <br>
    <br>
However, as a matter of aside, I would like, in a separate post, discuss
all the problems that I saw on those dives, and get some *positive* feedback.
I am not interesting in attacks, but rather some learning, if everyone is
open, <br>
    <br>
Let me know <br>
Karla Clinch</font></font></blockquote>
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