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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:11:46 +0200
From: mat.voss@t-*.de* (Matthias Voss)
Organization: Harry Haller Memorial Fund
CC: Tech Diver List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
Subject: Re: Dead Diver
n France ths people you are talking about would be restricted to diving
with an instructor to depths of 18m.

Hooking in , or out of a wreck can be dangerous. ( 30kg anchor, 10m
heavy chain).
I appreciate the help
of my buddy here. If there is a problem with the downspeed, we can rely
that our captain will keep the ship in a position so no tension gets to
the line.

What you decribe, seems to be a wordwide problem, but as well closely
related to a specific certing agency.
In most locations I dive from a boat, a SMB is an obligation.

Matthias

"g.wentland" schrieb:
> 
> Hi George:
> After experiencing lots of diving down here as a divemaster doing
> recreational charters, I know where Mike is coming from. I got so that I
> found diving more relaxing and safer diving solo than with a buddy picked at
> random from the dive boat. A lot of times I would end up diving with the
> least skilled of the bunch. I would get to repeatedly save their butt, do to
> things like not being weighted properly, losing a tank, not watching their
> air supply, or a host of other barn yard stupid things that can be expected
> if one dives a couple times a year. These kind of people/tourists are the
> bread & butter of  most dive boats in S. Florida. In my mind one is safer
> diving alone and one has more of a worry free dive when you don't have to
> worry about your buddy attacking you to get at your air supply or rushing to
> the surface in a state of panic after seeing a nurse shark.
>     I saw Mike dive with people like this repeatedly and I can say that this
> sort of thing gets old. It starts to take the fun out of diving. Your nerves
> start to frazzle and you wonder how people can take such risks with their
> and your life, and you wonder who the hell trained this guy or girl. It can
> get pretty frustrating as there seems to be an endless supply of these twice
> a year, poorly trained divers out there.
>     I found that if I dive as a divemaster solo, I can make the rounds and
> save more barnyard stupid new divers from themselves.
>     It is a great thing to always have a good buddy to dive with, but
> someone needs to look out for the newbies of diving or the death toll &
> insurance rates will sky rocket. Due to these continual experiences I find
> diving much more relaxing solo too. I have jumped countless wrecks solo. I
> will admit that it is not the safest act in the world, but it gets the job
> done. No one wants to go for a sand dive. Most buddies can not keep up with
> me going down. If your buddy stops because he can't clear his ears, that is
> the end of the dive, maybe for the whole boat. Grappling is a good idea as
> long as you do not grapple debris off the side of the wreck somewhere, or
> the grapple does not unhook. Remember recreational divers don't carry lift
> bags. If they did it would be a nightmare. I guess I'm done ramblin' on for
> the moment.
>  This is the reactive mentality that both I and Mike became used to. George,
> I would bet that you have been in our shoes at one time. You know, where it
> is safer to dive by yourself than with the people on the boat? Have a great
> day &
> Good Diving,
> Bye,
> George
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