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From: Jsuw@ao*.co*
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:01:48 EDT
Subject: Re: Dead Diver
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com

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Dive buddy roulette does get old after a while.  

Why not cultivate a group of competent local diving friends and plan to go on 
the boat with one of those buddies?  If you have enough people willing to go, 
you can even charter the entire boat and not have to deal with the newbies 
that are poorly trained.

Jan

In a message dated 9/23/01 9:15:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
wentland@no*.ed* writes:


> Hi George:
> After experiencing lots of diving down here as a divemaster doing
> recreational charters, I know where Mike is coming from. I got so that I
> found diving more relaxing and safer diving solo than with a buddy picked at
> random from the dive boat. A lot of times I would end up diving with the
> least skilled of the bunch. I would get to repeatedly save their butt, do to
> things like not being weighted properly, losing a tank, not watching their
> air supply, or a host of other barn yard stupid things that can be expected
> if one dives a couple times a year. These kind of people/tourists are the
> bread & butter of  most dive boats in S. Florida. In my mind one is safer
> diving alone and one has more of a worry free dive when you don't have to
> worry about your buddy attacking you to get at your air supply or rushing to
> the surface in a state of panic after seeing a nurse shark.
>     I saw Mike dive with people like this repeatedly and I can say that this
> sort of thing gets old. It starts to take the fun out of diving. Your nerves
> start to frazzle and you wonder how people can take such risks with their
> and your life, and you wonder who the hell trained this guy or girl. It can
> get pretty frustrating as there seems to be an endless supply of these twice
> a year, poorly trained divers out there.
>     I found that if I dive as a divemaster solo, I can make the rounds and
> save more barnyard stupid new divers from themselves.
>     It is a great thing to always have a good buddy to dive with, but
> someone needs to look out for the newbies of diving or the death toll &
> insurance rates will sky rocket. Due to these continual experiences I find
> diving much more relaxing solo too. I have jumped countless wrecks solo. I
> will admit that it is not the safest act in the world, but it gets the job
> done. No one wants to go for a sand dive. Most buddies can not keep up with
> me going down. If your buddy stops because he can't clear his ears, that is
> the end of the dive, maybe for the whole boat. Grappling is a good idea as
> long as you do not grapple debris off the side of the wreck somewhere, or
> the grapple does not unhook. Remember recreational divers don't carry lift
> bags. If they did it would be a nightmare. I guess I'm done ramblin' on for
> the moment.
> This is the reactive mentality that both I and Mike became used to. George,
> I would bet that you have been in our shoes at one time. You know, where it
> is safer to dive by yourself than with the people on the boat? Have a great
> day &
> Good Diving,
> Bye,
> George
> 


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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#800040" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">Dive buddy roulette does get old
after a while.  
<BR>
<BR>Why not cultivate a group of competent local diving friends and plan to
go on the boat with one of those buddies?  If you have enough people
willing to go, you can even charter the entire boat and not have to deal with
the newbies that are poorly trained.
<BR>
<BR>Jan
<BR>
<BR>In a message dated 9/23/01 9:15:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
wentland@no*.ed* writes:
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi George:
<BR>After experiencing lots of diving down here as a divemaster doing
<BR>recreational charters, I know where Mike is coming from. I got so that I
<BR>found diving more relaxing and safer diving solo than with a buddy
picked at
<BR>random from the dive boat. A lot of times I would end up diving with the
<BR>least skilled of the bunch. I would get to repeatedly save their butt,
do to
<BR>things like not being weighted properly, losing a tank, not watching
their
<BR>air supply, or a host of other barn yard stupid things that can be
expected
<BR>if one dives a couple times a year. These kind of people/tourists are the
<BR>bread & butter of  most dive boats in S. Florida. In my mind
one is safer
<BR>diving alone and one has more of a worry free dive when you don't have to
<BR>worry about your buddy attacking you to get at your air supply or
rushing to
<BR>the surface in a state of panic after seeing a nurse shark.
<BR>    I saw Mike dive with people like this repeatedly and
I can say that this
<BR>sort of thing gets old. It starts to take the fun out of diving. Your
nerves
<BR>start to frazzle and you wonder how people can take such risks with their
<BR>and your life, and you wonder who the hell trained this guy or girl. It
can
<BR>get pretty frustrating as there seems to be an endless supply of these
twice
<BR>a year, poorly trained divers out there.
<BR>    I found that if I dive as a divemaster solo, I can
make the rounds and
<BR>save more barnyard stupid new divers from themselves.
<BR>    It is a great thing to always have a good buddy to
dive with, but
<BR>someone needs to look out for the newbies of diving or the death toll
&
<BR>insurance rates will sky rocket. Due to these continual experiences I
find
<BR>diving much more relaxing solo too. I have jumped countless wrecks solo.
I
<BR>will admit that it is not the safest act in the world, but it gets the
job
<BR>done. No one wants to go for a sand dive. Most buddies can not keep up
with
<BR>me going down. If your buddy stops because he can't clear his ears, that
is
<BR>the end of the dive, maybe for the whole boat. Grappling is a good idea
as
<BR>long as you do not grapple debris off the side of the wreck somewhere, or
<BR>the grapple does not unhook. Remember recreational divers don't carry
lift
<BR>bags. If they did it would be a nightmare. I guess I'm done ramblin' on
for
<BR>the moment.
<BR>This is the reactive mentality that both I and Mike became used to.
George,
<BR>I would bet that you have been in our shoes at one time. You know, where
it
<BR>is safer to dive by yourself than with the people on the boat? Have a
great
<BR>day &
<BR>Good Diving,
<BR>Bye,
<BR>George
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800040" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic
Sans MS" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR><B>Visit my web page with underwater and other photos at
http://members.aol.com/jsuw3/index.html</B></FONT></HTML>

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