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Respect your eldersWe have a bunch of those , too. It is easy for me to love
it, I don't have to train them. I get to dive with the ones who make it.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
  Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 2:04 PM
  To: Trey; Duane Liptak Jr.; Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT;
techdiver@aquanaut.com; VB Tech
  Subject: Respect your elders


  George, we have a young whippersnapper who shows great promise as well.
Brad Beskin is a natural diver and one heck of a nice kid. The difference
between Brad and Duane is that Brad knows when to shut the fuck up and show
some respect for his gray-haired, pot-bellied elders, and to take it like a
man when he get's a little advice, friendly or otherwise.

  Unfortunately Brad is off to school, a drinkin' and a whorin', and I hope
we don't loose him and his abilities to some big-titted blond who prefers
roller skating, horsey-back riding or some other pussy sport like that.

    Jim
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    From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
    Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 07:35:01 -0400
    To: "Duane Liptak Jr." <dliptakjr@ea*.ne*>, "Scott Hunsucker"
<swhac@ho*.co*>, "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>,
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
    Subject: RE: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01





    JT et al, my guys think Dwayne will be one of our better assets so they
are giving him their full training attention. From my perspective, he has
the right raw material, and is the kind of person we need more of on our
team and elsewhere.

    We all learn someplace, and I' won't even bet you , I will tell you ,
there is no better place to learn than the WKPP.

    I like guys who know the importance and value of life , know what the
term "teamwork" means, and know how important that is to staying alive when
you play for real like we do, or when you play at it like the pretenders he
is commenting on.

    Unfortunately, there are strokes out there like Pizzio and his dead
comrade whose actions are so obviously stupid and unthinking that one does
not need to even know about diving to see that. There are also people out
there who set the worst possible example and then play tough guy like
Pizzio, the great FBI agent who acts more like the Lone Ranger. Hopefully
that is not how he conducts his job, or maybe that explains a lot about why
we got surprised by Osama if the rest of his agency operates with his "every
man for himself"  attitude. I guarantee that in the Marine Corp they don't
act like Pizzio, and it is no accident that  Marine can spot this kind of
bullshit.

    Read Pizzio and read Dwayne, and tell me who you want covering you back,
and who you want on your team. It looks like Pizzio has had one too many
dives and so ( obviously ) has Reichart.

    Again, solo diving with a rebreather is the dumbest fucking thing I have
ever head of, and I am not even remotely interested in the opinion of anyone
stupid enough to do it or condone it, and I am sure sick of listening to the
accident reports from the rest of the strokes who keep doing it over and
over.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Duane Liptak Jr. [mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*]
      Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:18 PM
      To: Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com
      Subject: Re: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01

      JT, I'm terribly sorry that you feel so threatened by little old me.
Just go off in your little corner and keep repeating the "I'm the greatest
diver that ever lived" mantra that you seem so fond of.  It must be that
when your bullshit meanderings don't fly, you feel compelled to attack the
messenger for lack of the ability to post a substantive rebuttal.



    >Well gee, I don't know which one to really address here, I got Duane
    >Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert techdiver in 6 months " or Scott
    >Nutsucker "I dove with him and his dick feels as hard as a rock".

    Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you think we've never heard
this schoolyard shit?  Grow up.  Or, at least come up with something a
little more original.

    >in 6 months this guy has dived enough, while
    >holding down a full time job, while also moving around, to dispense how
to
    >and what went wrong information,

    JT, I'm not going to waste my time pontificating on my greatness and my
abilities, as you are so apt to do.  Everything I post is based on what I
have done--not what I've heard, not what I've read, and not what I theorize.
I have never posted anything that hasn't come from my direct experience, as
limited as you think it is.  If you can find fault in anything I've said,
argue the content.  As I said before, I've had a unique opportunity to dive
with and learn from the pros, mainly because I'm willing to listen to what
works instead of proclaiming my own greatness.  If I can pass on any
knowledge I've gained in the spirit it was given to me, then I am happy.   I
have a simple system for just about everything I do.  Find out what works,
practice relentlessly, and never become complacent.  If you put half as much
effort into your whole life as I put into just my hobbies, maybe you could
afford a decent haircut.

    >Let me guess, he's a
    >Navy Seal too.

    No, I would never subject myself to Navy dive training.  I'm a plain,
regular, United States Marine.  I was an enlisted grunt for a while, and now
I fly.  I only bring that up because the Marine Corps lets me fly aircraft
with engines that cost more than most people's houses, and they let me do it
with far fewer flights than I have logged dives.  It's amazing what proper
training and hard work can do when applied within a framework of tested and
proven methods.

    > What a fucking joke..... Better make sure his checks cash
    >before he does a real dive.

    Here's where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT.  I learned to
dive from people who are my friends and teammates, and were willing to
devote unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my betterment.  All I have
ever been asked for in return is my friendship and a little well-deserved
loyalty.  There are no checks to cash.  I have been taught, trained, and
tested by people who care about me and about my skill development.  If you
were taught, way back before you were such a dive stud,  by people who did
it for the cash, then I'm sorry.  You got fucked.

    I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your trip with bated
breath.

    Sincerely,

    1stLt  DL












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  <BLOCKQUOTE><BR><B>From: </B>trey@ne*.co*
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    <dliptakjr@ea*.ne*>, "Scott Hunsucker" =
<swhac@ho*.co*>,=20
    "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>,=20
    <techdiver@aquanaut.com><BR><B>Subject: </B>RE: buddy teams,
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was Re:=20
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    size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>We all learn someplace, and I' won't =
even bet you ,=20
    I will tell you , there is no better place to learn than the=20
    WKPP.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>I like guys who know the importance and value of life , =
know what=20
    the term "teamwork" means, and know how important that is to staying =
alive=20
    when you play for real like we do, or when you play at it like the=20
    pretenders he is commenting
on.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT=20
    color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Unfortunately, =
there are strokes=20
    out there like Pizzio and his dead comrade whose actions are so =
obviously=20
    stupid and unthinking that one does not need to even know about =
diving to=20
    see that. There are also people out there who set the worst possible =
example=20
    and then play tough guy like Pizzio, the great FBI agent who acts =
more like=20
    the Lone Ranger. Hopefully that is not how he conducts his job, or =
maybe=20
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of his=20
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guarantee=20
    that in the Marine Corp they don't act like Pizzio, and it is no =
accident=20
    that  Marine can spot this kind of bullshit.=20
    <BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>Read Pizzio and read Dwayne, and tell me who you want =
covering=20
    you back, and who you want on your team. It looks like Pizzio has =
had one=20
    too many dives and so ( obviously ) has=20
    Reichart.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>Again, solo diving with a rebreather is the dumbest =
fucking thing=20
    I have ever head of, and I am not even remotely interested in the =
opinion of=20
    anyone stupid enough to do it or condone it, and I am sure sick of =
listening=20
    to the accident reports from the rest of the strokes who keep doing =
it over=20
    and over.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DTahoma>-----Original=20
      Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Duane Liptak Jr.=20
      [mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September =
21,=20
      2001 9:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT;=20
      techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: buddy teams, was
Re: =
Death=20
      of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01<BR><BR></FONT></FONT>JT, I'm
terribly =
sorry=20
      that you feel so threatened by little old me.  Just go off in =
your=20
      little corner and keep repeating the "I'm the greatest diver that =
ever=20
      lived" mantra that you seem so fond of.  It must be that when =
your=20
      bullshit meanderings don't fly, you feel compelled to attack the =
messenger=20
      for lack of the ability to post a substantive rebuttal. <BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2><FONT =
face=3DArial><BR><BR></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT=20
    size=3D2>>Well gee, I don't know which one to really address =
here, I got=20
    Duane <BR>>Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert techdiver in 6 =
months "=20
    or Scott <BR>>Nutsucker "I dove with him and his dick feels as =
hard as a=20
    rock".<BR></FONT><BR>Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you
=
think=20
    we've never heard this schoolyard shit?  Grow up.  Or, at =
least=20
    come up with something a little more original.<BR><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>>in 6=20
    months this guy has dived enough, while <BR>>holding down a full =
time=20
    job, while also moving around, to dispense how to <BR>>and what =
went=20
    wrong information,<BR></FONT><BR>JT, I'm not going to waste my
time=20
    pontificating on my greatness and my abilities, as you are so apt to =
do.=20
     Everything I post is based on what I have done--not what I've =
heard,=20
    not what I've read, and not what I theorize.  I have never =
posted=20
    anything that hasn't come from my direct experience, as limited as =
you think=20
    it is.  If you can find fault in anything I've said, argue the =
content.=20
     As I said before, I've had a unique opportunity to dive with =
and learn=20
    from the pros, mainly because I'm willing to listen to what works =
instead of=20
    proclaiming my own greatness.  If I can pass on any knowledge =
I've=20
    gained in the spirit it was given to me, then I am happy. =
  I have=20
    a simple system for just about everything I do.  Find out what =
works,=20
    practice relentlessly, and never become complacent.  If you put =
half as=20
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maybe you=20
    could afford a decent haircut.<BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>>Let me =
guess, he's a=20
    <BR>>Navy Seal too.<BR></FONT><BR>No, I would never subject =
myself to=20
    Navy dive training.  I'm a plain, regular, United States =
Marine.=20
     I was an enlisted grunt for a while, and now I fly.  I =
only bring=20
    that up because the Marine Corps lets me fly aircraft with engines =
that cost=20
    more than most people's houses, and they let me do it with far fewer =
flights=20
    than I have logged dives.  It's amazing what proper training =
and hard=20
    work can do when applied within a framework of tested and proven=20
    methods.<BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>> What a fucking joke.....
Better =
make sure=20
    his checks cash <BR>>before he does a real =
dive.<BR></FONT><BR>Here's=20
    where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT.  I learned =
to dive=20
    from people who are my friends and teammates, and were willing to =
devote=20
    unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my betterment.  All =
I have=20
    ever been asked for in return is my friendship and a little =
well-deserved=20
    loyalty.  There are no checks to cash.  I have been =
taught,=20
    trained, and tested by people who care about me and about my skill=20
    development.  If you were taught, way back before you were such =
a dive=20
    stud,  by people who did it for the cash, then I'm sorry. =
 You got=20
    fucked. <BR><BR>I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your =
trip with=20
    bated breath.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>1stLt=20
    =
 DL<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOC
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