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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Duane Liptak Jr." <dliptakjr@ea*.ne*>,
     "Scott Hunsucker" , "Capt JT" ,
    
Subject: RE: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 07:35:01 -0400
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JT et al, my guys think Dwayne will be one of our better assets so they are
giving him their full training attention. From my perspective, he has the
right raw material, and is the kind of person we need more of on our team
and elsewhere.

We all learn someplace, and I' won't even bet you , I will tell you , there
is no better place to learn than the WKPP.

I like guys who know the importance and value of life , know what the term
"teamwork" means, and know how important that is to staying alive when you
play for real like we do, or when you play at it like the pretenders he is
commenting on.

Unfortunately, there are strokes out there like Pizzio and his dead comrade
whose actions are so obviously stupid and unthinking that one does not need
to even know about diving to see that. There are also people out there who
set the worst possible example and then play tough guy like Pizzio, the
great FBI agent who acts more like the Lone Ranger. Hopefully that is not
how he conducts his job, or maybe that explains a lot about why we got
surprised by Osama if the rest of his agency operates with his "every man
for himself"  attitude. I guarantee that in the Marine Corp they don't act
like Pizzio, and it is no accident that  Marine can spot this kind of
bullshit.

Read Pizzio and read Dwayne, and tell me who you want covering you back, and
who you want on your team. It looks like Pizzio has had one too many dives
and so ( obviously ) has Reichart.

Again, solo diving with a rebreather is the dumbest fucking thing I have
ever head of, and I am not even remotely interested in the opinion of anyone
stupid enough to do it or condone it, and I am sure sick of listening to the
accident reports from the rest of the strokes who keep doing it over and
over.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Duane Liptak Jr. [mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*]
  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:18 PM
  To: Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com
  Subject: Re: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01


  JT, I'm terribly sorry that you feel so threatened by little old me.  Just
go off in your little corner and keep repeating the "I'm the greatest diver
that ever lived" mantra that you seem so fond of.  It must be that when your
bullshit meanderings don't fly, you feel compelled to attack the messenger
for lack of the ability to post a substantive rebuttal.


  >Well gee, I don't know which one to really address here, I got Duane
  >Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert techdiver in 6 months " or Scott
  >Nutsucker "I dove with him and his dick feels as hard as a rock".

  Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you think we've never heard this
schoolyard shit?  Grow up.  Or, at least come up with something a little
more original.

  >in 6 months this guy has dived enough, while
  >holding down a full time job, while also moving around, to dispense how
to
  >and what went wrong information,

  JT, I'm not going to waste my time pontificating on my greatness and my
abilities, as you are so apt to do.  Everything I post is based on what I
have done--not what I've heard, not what I've read, and not what I theorize.
I have never posted anything that hasn't come from my direct experience, as
limited as you think it is.  If you can find fault in anything I've said,
argue the content.  As I said before, I've had a unique opportunity to dive
with and learn from the pros, mainly because I'm willing to listen to what
works instead of proclaiming my own greatness.  If I can pass on any
knowledge I've gained in the spirit it was given to me, then I am happy.   I
have a simple system for just about everything I do.  Find out what works,
practice relentlessly, and never become complacent.  If you put half as much
effort into your whole life as I put into just my hobbies, maybe you could
afford a decent haircut.

  >Let me guess, he's a
  >Navy Seal too.

  No, I would never subject myself to Navy dive training.  I'm a plain,
regular, United States Marine.  I was an enlisted grunt for a while, and now
I fly.  I only bring that up because the Marine Corps lets me fly aircraft
with engines that cost more than most people's houses, and they let me do it
with far fewer flights than I have logged dives.  It's amazing what proper
training and hard work can do when applied within a framework of tested and
proven methods.

  > What a fucking joke..... Better make sure his checks cash
  >before he does a real dive.

  Here's where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT.  I learned to
dive from people who are my friends and teammates, and were willing to
devote unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my betterment.  All I have
ever been asked for in return is my friendship and a little well-deserved
loyalty.  There are no checks to cash.  I have been taught, trained, and
tested by people who care about me and about my skill development.  If you
were taught, way back before you were such a dive stud,  by people who did
it for the cash, then I'm sorry.  You got fucked.

  I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your trip with bated breath.

  Sincerely,

  1stLt  DL









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al, my guys think Dwayne will be one of our better assets so they are =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial
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there who=20
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great=20
FBI agent who acts more like the Lone Ranger. Hopefully that is not how =
he=20
conducts his job, or maybe that explains a lot about why we got =
surprised by=20
Osama if the rest of his agency operates with his "every man for =
himself" =20
attitude. I guarantee that in the Marine Corp they don't act like =
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Pizzio and read Dwayne, and tell me who you want covering you back, and =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial
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solo diving with a rebreather is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever =
head of,=20
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enough to=20
do it or condone it, and I am sure sick of listening to the accident =
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over.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Duane Liptak
Jr.=20
  [mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 21, =
2001=20
  9:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT;=20
  techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: buddy teams, was Re: =
Death of=20
  Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>JT, I'm terribly sorry that you feel so threatened by little old=20
  me.  Just go off in your little corner and keep repeating the =
"I'm the=20
  greatest diver that ever lived" mantra that you seem so fond of.  =
It must=20
  be that when your bullshit meanderings don't fly, you feel compelled =
to attack=20
  the messenger for lack of the ability to post a substantive rebuttal. =
</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff></FONT><BR> </DIV>
  <DIV></FONT><FONT size=3D2>>Well gee, I don't know which one to =
really=20
  address here, I got Duane <BR>>Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert =

  techdiver in 6 months " or Scott <BR>>Nutsucker "I dove with him =
and his=20
  dick feels as hard as a rock".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you think we've never =
heard=20
  this schoolyard shit?  Grow up.  Or, at least come up with =
something=20
  a little more original.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>>in 6 months this guy has dived enough, while=20
  <BR>>holding down a full time job, while also moving around, to =
dispense=20
  how to <BR>>and what went wrong information,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>JT, I'm not going to waste my time pontificating on my greatness =
and my=20
  abilities, as you are so apt to do.  Everything I post is based =
on what I=20
  have done--not what I've heard, not what I've read, and not what I=20
  theorize.  I have never posted anything that hasn't come from my =
direct=20
  experience, as limited as you think it is.  If you can find fault =
in=20
  anything I've said, argue the content.  As I said before, I've =
had a=20
  unique opportunity to dive with and learn from the pros, mainly =
because I'm=20
  willing to listen to what works instead of proclaiming my own =
greatness. =20
  If I can pass on any knowledge I've gained in the spirit it was given =
to me,=20
  then I am happy.   I have a simple system for just about =
everything=20
  I do.  Find out what works, practice relentlessly, and never =
become=20
  complacent.  If you put half as much effort into your whole life =
as I put=20
  into just my hobbies, maybe you could afford a decent haircut.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>>Let me guess, he's a <BR>>Navy Seal =
too.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>No, I would never subject myself to Navy dive training.  I'm =
a=20
  plain, regular, United States Marine.  I was an enlisted grunt =
for a=20
  while, and now I fly.  I only bring that up because the Marine =
Corps lets=20
  me fly aircraft with engines that cost more than most people's houses, =
and=20
  they let me do it with far fewer flights than I have logged =
dives.  It's=20
  amazing what proper training and hard work can do when applied within =
a=20
  framework of tested and proven methods.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>> What a fucking joke..... Better make sure his =
checks=20
  cash <BR>>before he does a real dive.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>Here's where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT.  =
I=20
  learned to dive from people who are my friends and teammates, and were =
willing=20
  to devote unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my =
betterment.  All=20
  I have ever been asked for in return is my friendship and a little=20
  well-deserved loyalty.  There are no checks to cash.  I have =
been=20
  taught, trained, and tested by people who care about me and about my =
skill=20
  development.  If you were taught, way back before you were such a =
dive=20
  stud,  by people who did it for the cash, then I'm sorry.  =
You got=20
  fucked. </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your trip with bated =

  breath.</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>Sincerely,</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>1stLt  DL</DIV>
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