This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C14339.16F5AA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JT et al, my guys think Dwayne will be one of our better assets so they are giving him their full training attention. From my perspective, he has the right raw material, and is the kind of person we need more of on our team and elsewhere. We all learn someplace, and I' won't even bet you , I will tell you , there is no better place to learn than the WKPP. I like guys who know the importance and value of life , know what the term "teamwork" means, and know how important that is to staying alive when you play for real like we do, or when you play at it like the pretenders he is commenting on. Unfortunately, there are strokes out there like Pizzio and his dead comrade whose actions are so obviously stupid and unthinking that one does not need to even know about diving to see that. There are also people out there who set the worst possible example and then play tough guy like Pizzio, the great FBI agent who acts more like the Lone Ranger. Hopefully that is not how he conducts his job, or maybe that explains a lot about why we got surprised by Osama if the rest of his agency operates with his "every man for himself" attitude. I guarantee that in the Marine Corp they don't act like Pizzio, and it is no accident that Marine can spot this kind of bullshit. Read Pizzio and read Dwayne, and tell me who you want covering you back, and who you want on your team. It looks like Pizzio has had one too many dives and so ( obviously ) has Reichart. Again, solo diving with a rebreather is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever head of, and I am not even remotely interested in the opinion of anyone stupid enough to do it or condone it, and I am sure sick of listening to the accident reports from the rest of the strokes who keep doing it over and over. -----Original Message----- From: Duane Liptak Jr. [mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:18 PM To: Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: buddy teams, was Re: Death of Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01 JT, I'm terribly sorry that you feel so threatened by little old me. Just go off in your little corner and keep repeating the "I'm the greatest diver that ever lived" mantra that you seem so fond of. It must be that when your bullshit meanderings don't fly, you feel compelled to attack the messenger for lack of the ability to post a substantive rebuttal. >Well gee, I don't know which one to really address here, I got Duane >Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert techdiver in 6 months " or Scott >Nutsucker "I dove with him and his dick feels as hard as a rock". Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you think we've never heard this schoolyard shit? Grow up. Or, at least come up with something a little more original. >in 6 months this guy has dived enough, while >holding down a full time job, while also moving around, to dispense how to >and what went wrong information, JT, I'm not going to waste my time pontificating on my greatness and my abilities, as you are so apt to do. Everything I post is based on what I have done--not what I've heard, not what I've read, and not what I theorize. I have never posted anything that hasn't come from my direct experience, as limited as you think it is. If you can find fault in anything I've said, argue the content. As I said before, I've had a unique opportunity to dive with and learn from the pros, mainly because I'm willing to listen to what works instead of proclaiming my own greatness. If I can pass on any knowledge I've gained in the spirit it was given to me, then I am happy. I have a simple system for just about everything I do. Find out what works, practice relentlessly, and never become complacent. If you put half as much effort into your whole life as I put into just my hobbies, maybe you could afford a decent haircut. >Let me guess, he's a >Navy Seal too. No, I would never subject myself to Navy dive training. I'm a plain, regular, United States Marine. I was an enlisted grunt for a while, and now I fly. I only bring that up because the Marine Corps lets me fly aircraft with engines that cost more than most people's houses, and they let me do it with far fewer flights than I have logged dives. It's amazing what proper training and hard work can do when applied within a framework of tested and proven methods. > What a fucking joke..... Better make sure his checks cash >before he does a real dive. Here's where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT. I learned to dive from people who are my friends and teammates, and were willing to devote unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my betterment. All I have ever been asked for in return is my friendship and a little well-deserved loyalty. There are no checks to cash. I have been taught, trained, and tested by people who care about me and about my skill development. If you were taught, way back before you were such a dive stud, by people who did it for the cash, then I'm sorry. You got fucked. I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your trip with bated breath. Sincerely, 1stLt DL ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C14339.16F5AA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type = content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#e0e0d0> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>JT et=20 al, my guys think Dwayne will be one of our better assets so they are = giving him=20 their full training attention. From my perspective, he has the right raw = material, and is the kind of person we need more of on our team and=20 elsewhere.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>We all=20 learn someplace, and I' won't even bet you , I will tell you , there is=20 no better place to learn than the WKPP.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>I like=20 guys who know the importance and value of life , know what the term = "teamwork"=20 means, and know how important that is to staying alive when you play for = real=20 like we do, or when you play at it like the pretenders he is commenting=20 on.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Unfortunately, there are strokes out there like Pizzio and his = dead=20 comrade whose actions are so obviously stupid and unthinking that one = does not=20 need to even know about diving to see that. There are also people out = there who=20 set the worst possible example and then play tough guy like Pizzio, the = great=20 FBI agent who acts more like the Lone Ranger. Hopefully that is not how = he=20 conducts his job, or maybe that explains a lot about why we got = surprised by=20 Osama if the rest of his agency operates with his "every man for = himself" =20 attitude. I guarantee that in the Marine Corp they don't act like = Pizzio, and it=20 is no accident that Marine can spot this kind of bullshit.=20 </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Read=20 Pizzio and read Dwayne, and tell me who you want covering you back, and = who you=20 want on your team. It looks like Pizzio has had one too many dives and = so (=20 obviously ) has Reichart.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Again,=20 solo diving with a rebreather is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever = head of,=20 and I am not even remotely interested in the opinion of anyone stupid = enough to=20 do it or condone it, and I am sure sick of listening to the accident = reports=20 from the rest of the strokes who keep doing it over and=20 over.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D633082011-22092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Duane Liptak Jr.=20 [mailto:dliptakjr@ea*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 21, = 2001=20 9:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Scott Hunsucker; Capt JT;=20 techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: buddy teams, was Re: = Death of=20 Eric Reichardt, 9/16/01<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>JT, I'm terribly sorry that you feel so threatened by little old=20 me. Just go off in your little corner and keep repeating the = "I'm the=20 greatest diver that ever lived" mantra that you seem so fond of. = It must=20 be that when your bullshit meanderings don't fly, you feel compelled = to attack=20 the messenger for lack of the ability to post a substantive rebuttal. = </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT = color=3D#0000ff></FONT><BR> </DIV> <DIV></FONT><FONT size=3D2>>Well gee, I don't know which one to = really=20 address here, I got Duane <BR>>Lipdick "from weenie diver to expert = techdiver in 6 months " or Scott <BR>>Nutsucker "I dove with him = and his=20 dick feels as hard as a rock".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Damn, JT... with last names like ours, do you think we've never = heard=20 this schoolyard shit? Grow up. Or, at least come up with = something=20 a little more original.</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>>in 6 months this guy has dived enough, while=20 <BR>>holding down a full time job, while also moving around, to = dispense=20 how to <BR>>and what went wrong information,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>JT, I'm not going to waste my time pontificating on my greatness = and my=20 abilities, as you are so apt to do. Everything I post is based = on what I=20 have done--not what I've heard, not what I've read, and not what I=20 theorize. I have never posted anything that hasn't come from my = direct=20 experience, as limited as you think it is. If you can find fault = in=20 anything I've said, argue the content. As I said before, I've = had a=20 unique opportunity to dive with and learn from the pros, mainly = because I'm=20 willing to listen to what works instead of proclaiming my own = greatness. =20 If I can pass on any knowledge I've gained in the spirit it was given = to me,=20 then I am happy. I have a simple system for just about = everything=20 I do. Find out what works, practice relentlessly, and never = become=20 complacent. If you put half as much effort into your whole life = as I put=20 into just my hobbies, maybe you could afford a decent haircut.</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>>Let me guess, he's a <BR>>Navy Seal = too.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>No, I would never subject myself to Navy dive training. I'm = a=20 plain, regular, United States Marine. I was an enlisted grunt = for a=20 while, and now I fly. I only bring that up because the Marine = Corps lets=20 me fly aircraft with engines that cost more than most people's houses, = and=20 they let me do it with far fewer flights than I have logged = dives. It's=20 amazing what proper training and hard work can do when applied within = a=20 framework of tested and proven methods.</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>> What a fucking joke..... Better make sure his = checks=20 cash <BR>>before he does a real dive.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Here's where the real beauty of my situation comes in, JT. = I=20 learned to dive from people who are my friends and teammates, and were = willing=20 to devote unbelievable amounts of time and effort to my = betterment. All=20 I have ever been asked for in return is my friendship and a little=20 well-deserved loyalty. There are no checks to cash. I have = been=20 taught, trained, and tested by people who care about me and about my = skill=20 development. If you were taught, way back before you were such a = dive=20 stud, by people who did it for the cash, then I'm sorry. = You got=20 fucked. </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>I'll be awaiting your triumphant return from your trip with bated = breath.</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Sincerely,</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>1stLt DL</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C14339.16F5AA00-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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