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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Steve Nagiewicz" <steve@di*.co*>, <MICHAELPIZZIO@cs*.co*>,
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Subject: RE: Another of your buddies?? FW: dive accident
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:37:56 -0400
No, Stevie, the best time is now when your denial is making you think these
guys are anything but obvious idiots. I will remind you that I told this
moron the same thing on this list when he was alive, and he proceeded to
tell me how stupid I am. You don't get it, and he did not get it. Not that
any of YOU will, but those watching can count the bodies piling up of the
morons who keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I expect you big time tough guy rebreather wannabees to keep doing this. I
hope you fail to attract the number of recruits that you have been trying to
hard to lure to the trap.

Funny, I don't do any of the stupid things you idiots do and I hold the
world's record for distance in an cave using a rebreather, and nobody on my
team ever has any of the continuous problems that the rest of you just can
figure out. None of you does any dive that even is as long as one of my deco
stops. None of you does jack shit but yap.



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nagiewicz [mailto:steve@di*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:13 AM
To: Trey; MICHAELPIZZIO@cs*.co*; jeverett@ne*.co*;
quest@gu*.co*; FlTechDiver@mikey.net; wkpp@eg*.co*;
techdiver@aquanaut.com; ajmurphy@sn*.ne*; aocfishman@ho*.co*;
batesmotel@ea*.ne*; capttom@po*.co*; jchatterton@ho*.co*;
chris@mi*.co*; joe@po*.co*; wcleary@pc*.ne*;
trimix@ho*.co*; steve@co*.ne*; DEEPEXPL@ao*.co*;
dive4kix@ha*.rr*.co*; Don@mi*.co*; pduffy@ox*.co*;
garygentile@ms*.co*; heinerth@gt*.ne*; inspiration@dr*.ne*;
SpannosDiver1@ao*.co*; john@en*.ne*; Kcdiversny@ao*.co*;
mlavitt@av*.co*; ghmorris@te*.co*; mossman@te*.ne*;
TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*; bgpartri@is*.ca*;
deepreef@bi*.or*; rcicansky@un*.co*;
rebreather-request@nw*.co*; RAKOHLER@ao*.co*; sfrank@pd*.ne*;
Johnscha@ag*.co*; BillStone@co*.co*; brw@la*.go*;
christina@ch*.co*; mzurl@be*.ne*
Subject: Re: Another of your buddies?? FW: dive accident


For someone who is apparently looked up to in the diving community as a
leader, what an asinine thing to say, in print no less.  The time for
finger-pointing and lessons learned would be best served after the poor man
is hopefully found and put to rest and this conversations done in a less
vilifying forum than a group email.  If you are a "leader" than act like one
and set an example of how you expect us to act through good and bad dives.
The last time I checked only God was perfect, I wasn't aware he now resides
in the Florida cave systems.

Capt. Steve Nagiewicz  Email: steve@di*.co*
Diversion II - NJ Shipwreck Diving  www.diversion2.com
NJScuba, the On-line Resource for divers - Email: www.njscuba.com
Mail: 281 Timberline Place, Brick, N.J. 08723 - Home# 732.477.8404

----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: <MICHAELPIZZIO@cs*.co*>; <jeverett@ne*.co*>; <quest@gu*.co*>;
<FlTechDiver@mikey.net>; <wkpp@eg*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>;
<ajmurphy@sn*.ne*>; <aocfishman@ho*.co*>; <batesmotel@ea*.ne*>;
<capttom@po*.co*>; <jchatterton@ho*.co*>;
<chris@mi*.co*>; <joe@po*.co*>;
<wcleary@pc*.ne*>; <trimix@ho*.co*>; <steve@co*.ne*>;
<DEEPEXPL@ao*.co*>; <dive4kix@ha*.rr*.co*>; <Don@mi*.co*>;
<pduffy@ox*.co*>; <garygentile@ms*.co*>; <heinerth@gt*.ne*>;
<inspiration@dr*.ne*>; <SpannosDiver1@ao*.co*>; <john@en*.ne*>;
<Kcdiversny@ao*.co*>; <mlavitt@av*.co*>; <ghmorris@te*.co*>;
<mossman@te*.ne*>; <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>;
<Steve@di*.co*>; <bgpartri@is*.ca*>; <deepreef@bi*.or*>;
<rcicansky@un*.co*>; <rebreather-request@nw*.co*>;
<RAKOHLER@ao*.co*>; <sfrank@pd*.ne*>; <Johnscha@ag*.co*>;
<BillStone@co*.co*>; <brw@la*.go*>; <christina@ch*.co*>;
<mzurl@be*.ne*>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Another of your buddies?? FW: dive accident


>
> Mike, what I did do is tell that boat I would never dive off of it again
> with an idiot diving solo on a Buddy, and if you want me to tell you that
to
> your face I will be glad to do it. The story you put out is so stupid and
so
> typical of what I call a stroke that I can not believe you even admitted
to
> it.
>
> The last thing I will do is waste my time and money looking for that fat
> slob who slandered me and spent a great deal of time badmouthing me. Get
Tom
> Mount to do it. He thinks diving solo on a Cis is a great idea.
>
> What is amazing about guys like you is that you learn nothing. Read your
own
> account - it has every dumb thing possible in it that should never be done
> by anyone. Textbook what not to do.
>
> You and the rest can tell me I am wrong when you can put together my track
> record instead of the string of death reports that we are so accustomed to
> seeing from you guys.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICHAELPIZZIO@cs*.co* [mailto:MICHAELPIZZIO@cs*.co*]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:19 AM
> To: trey@ne*.co*; jeverett@ne*.co*; quest@gu*.co*;
> FlTechDiver@mikey.net; wkpp@eg*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com;
> ajmurphy@sn*.ne*; aocfishman@ho*.co*; batesmotel@ea*.ne*;
> capttom@po*.co*; jchatterton@ho*.co*;
> chris@mi*.co*; joe@po*.co*; wcleary@pc*.ne*;
> trimix@ho*.co*; steve@co*.ne*; DEEPEXPL@ao*.co*;
> dive4kix@ha*.rr*.co*; Don@mi*.co*; pduffy@ox*.co*;
> garygentile@ms*.co*; heinerth@gt*.ne*; inspiration@dr*.ne*;
> SpannosDiver1@ao*.co*; john@en*.ne*; Kcdiversny@ao*.co*;
> mlavitt@av*.co*; ghmorris@te*.co*; mossman@te*.ne*;
> TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*; Steve@di*.co*; bgpartri@is*.ca*;
> deepreef@bi*.or*; rcicansky@un*.co*;
> rebreather-request@nw*.co*; RAKOHLER@ao*.co*; sfrank@pd*.ne*;
> Johnscha@ag*.co*; BillStone@co*.co*; brw@la*.go*;
> christina@ch*.co*; mzurl@be*.ne*
> Subject: Re: Another of your buddies?? FW: dive accident
>
>
> Hi George, we met last spring on  the dive boat Fish Food, dont know
> if you recall.  I really enjoyed our conversation then, however, I dont
> recall you calling me a stroke then.  Then again, Ive heard you only do
this
> sort of thing on the net.
>
> I posted to report the facts so people would know what happened.  In that
> spirit, I had hoped that some small amount of decorum would be shown.
> Unfortunately, you appear happy a diver is dead.  Moreover, you appear to
> want to see more death of divers.  Total disregard for human life is what
> has
> given us our current situation in NY and in our capital.  Apparently, you
> believe this will force people to see your point, just as Osma Bin Laden
> believes.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
>
> No one questions the abilities and achievements of the WKPP.  However, I
> must
> wonder exactly how your team feels about the clear instability you show to
> the world with your unsettling hatred of people you have never even met.
I
> have been in some difficult situations in my life and keeping a cool head
is
> important when things are tough.  Do they wonder how you will respond when
> the chips are down?
>
> I find it hard to believe that someone so involved in a sport could
> celebrate
> the death of someone in that sport.  Honestly, it makes me sick, and Im
sure
> most everyone on this and other lists agree.  I feel for you as a person
and
> hope you seek the help you so clearly need.
>
> That said, since you reside so close to the accident sight, give me a call
> and offer some assistance in the recovery effort.  I know you have done
this
> before so I know you share my view that divers who dont surface at least
> deserve a chance at a proper burial.  Even if you disagreed with Eric,
his
> parents deserve a chance to put this to rest.  I met them and they are
> wonderful people.  They appreciate what we are trying to do, and they have
> asked me to convey that to all who are assisting.  Besides, I cant be the
> first stroke you have dove with in your life, and, if I die on the
> Inspiration, you'll have more to celebrate.
>
> Warm regards, Mike
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