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Paul,
Oh you are so cleaver preaching Jewish ritual purity codes and other
irrelavant nonsense (very tiring), but you left out a lot of bible
admonishments that apply to you. You make a big assumption that everyone
buys and should conform to your brand of religion and its definitions of
sin. Thank you for proving my point exactly.
Take care,
Doug
P.S.
Ref your Leviticus 20:13:
So who will do the killing of me? You? "Wouldn't be prudent."
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Komrowski [mailto:2deep@tw*.rr*.co*]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 3:21 PM
To: Doug Chapman; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Lines in the sand/Lunacy is not religion specific
Your just mad because the Bible says being a sodomite is wrong. Don't worry
though God doesn't hate you, just your sin.
Lev. 20:13
13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them.
(Rom 1:21-28 KJV) "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not
as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and
their foolish heart was darkened. {22} Professing themselves to be wise,
they became fools, {23} And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into
an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts,
and creeping things. {24} Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between
themselves: {25} Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and
served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
{26} For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: {27} And
likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and
receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. {28}
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave
them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
Paul Komrowski
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Chapman [mailto:dougch@at*.ne*]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 10:30 AM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re:Lines in the sand/Lunacy is not religion specific
>Television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most
>prominent voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties
>groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear
>partial responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their
>actions have turned God's anger against America.
I suggest rather that people like Falwell and Robertson who use lies,
distortions of truth, and fear tactics to terrorize people into sending them
money and supporting their distorted agendas are nothing more than domestic
terrorists and should be included on the government's hit list when we go to
war.
>I happen to be an ordained deacon in one of the better known Protestant
>sects. I also did a minor in comparative religion in college. I am
>extremely familiar with the teachings of Msrs. Falwell et alia.
>Obviously he does not advocate mass murder.
I would disagree that Falwell and Robertson do not advocare mass murder. A
gay, lesbian, or bisexual (GLB) teenager commits suicide in the USA every 6
hours. That equates to roughly 1500 dead GLB kids each year. We know this
happens and why. Falwell and Robertson know this happens and why (and
aggressively fund anti-gay agendas that contribute to it). George Bush Sr.
knows this happens and why when in 1976 he attempted to suppress a Federal
study (that he commissioned) on teenage suicide which included a chapter on
gay teenage suicide. He was under pressure from conservative fundamentalist
religious groups to do so. The study pointed its finger squarely at the
schools, churches, and government for knowing permitting and in most cases
actively supporting an environment filled with prejudice and hate towards
GLB people. 1500 kids that kill themselves for reasons directly tied to
religious prejudice is mass murder, absurd, and a condemnation of society as
a whole for allowing it to continue. Case in point, three months ago a group
of GLB high-school students visited a Florida state legislator (Alex
Travollian) as part of a safe-school campaign (for ALL students) and he told
them they deserved the hate and prejudice they receive and that God will
destroy them as well for their sins.
I'm also very familiar with religious scripture and I also happen to be gay.
Mark Brinkman on the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania was also openly gay
(one of the three passengers suspected to have fought back against the
terrorists). The co-pilot for the plane that hit the Pentagon was openly
gay. Many other gay people died alongside everyone else in these attacks;
however, we will not forget that domestic terrorism and violence occurs
every day in the US against us. 'And we do support the US in doing WHATEVER
is necessary for ending terrorism; the kind we saw on tuesday and also the
kind I and GLB kids see every day. I was in the middle east during the Iran
hostage crisis and ensuing conflict. Where? You will never know, but I would
go again in a second for this cause, except for the US ban on gays in the
military. Another stupid form of ignorance easily traced to religious
prejudice.
Take care,
Doug
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