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Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 10:35:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Florida panel bans shark feeding
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Curt Degler <cdegler@be*.co*>, <hphobbie@at*.ne*>,
     Tech Diver
All I can say is thank goodness the Florida board did not ban shark finning,
or else how could I afford this expensive sport...

And thank goodness those wacky Chinese will buy anything that puts lead in
their pencils. Personally I think the sharks are just plain getting pissed.

We ought to start a rumor that Ancient Chinese Remedy for impotence is a
drink made of the gonads of mosquitoes, ticks and bottfiles. In one stroke
would get rid of malaria, lyme disease, and dengue fever.

   Jim
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> From: Curt Degler <cdegler@be*.co*>
> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 14:08:39 -0700
> To: hphobbie@at*.ne*
> Subject: Re: Florida panel bans shark feeding
> 
>> I think shark feeds are dumb
> 
> what an intelligent comment!
> 
> just as the analogy between opposing shark feeding and opposing state
> regulation of caving.
> 
> First they stop shark feeding, then they stop wet cavers.
> 
> Pretty soon we have handgun regulation!
> 
> And commies in the white house!
> 
> I'd be embarrassed if I were you to post such drivel.
> 
> Instead I'd work on opposing current rules against feeding gators and
> bears. This is where the current stupidity started.
> 
> Everyone knows that the human provision of wild animals is without any
> effect whatsover on their behavior. Its just common sense!
> 
> Curt Degler
> 
> 
> Preston Hobbie wrote:
>> 
>> is almost like a Monty Python skit ... the sharks are attacking surfers in
>> swimmers within yards of shore, at the surface, in dirty water, at dusk or
>> dawn. So we ban shark feedings miles offshore, at 20-40 ft, in clear water,
>> during the day
>> 
>> ..... she's a witch! ...
>> 
>> H. Preston Hobbie
>> 317-894-9338
>> http://home.att.net/~hphobbie/index.htm
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Holcomb [mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 6:28 AM
>> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> Subject: Re: Florida panel bans shark feeding
>> 
>> Folks need to take heed of this proposed ban.  I think shark feed dives are
>> dumb.  BUT, if this ban takes effect it will have a NEGATIVE impact on all
>> divers for sometime to come.  If these commissioners can come to the dumbass
>> conclusions that they did on this issue and buckle under to political
>> pressure and media hype, then who's next?  Keep in mind, on average more
>> divers die in Florida caves than in any negative Florida shark "encounter".
>> This proposed shark ban decision was made by 7 people in a state of
>> millions.  How many will it take to close access to our caves next time we
>> have another multiple fatality?  I suggest those of you who live in Florida
>> write your representatives in opposition to this ban.  As I said at the
>> beginning, I oppose shark feed dives - but one has to go with the lesser of
>> two evils in this case.
>> 
>> Jim Holcomb
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John M. Taylor" <johnt@ca*.co*>
>> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:36 PM
>> Subject: Florida panel bans shark feeding
>> 
>>> http://www.floridatoday.com/news/local/stories/2001/sep/loc090701i.htm
>>> 
>>> Sept. 7, 2001
>>> 
>>> Florida panel bans shark feeding
>>> 
>>> By John Tuohy
>>> FLORIDA TODAY
>>> 
>>> AMELIA ISLAND, Fla. - In a swift change of course, environmental
>>> regulators Thursday agreed
>>> to ban shark feeding in Florida waters.
>>> 
>>> The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission voted 6-1 to write
>>> a rule that prohibits
>>> feeding of sharks and other marine predators, including eels and rays.
>>> The rule will be
>>> considered at its next meeting Oct. 31.
>>> 
>>> The action took diving tour operators, who feed the sharks to give scuba
>>> diving tourists a
>>> close-up look at them, by surprise. The commission had been expected to
>>> consider only rules
>>> to regulate, not ban, shark-feeding dives.
>>> 
>>> "They basically bowed to pressure. They said let's bury these guys and
>>> show the people of
>>> Florida we are doing something about sharks, even though nobody has ever
>>> been seriously
>>> hurt on a dive," said Jim Abernathy, owner of Jim Abernathy's Scuba
>>> Adventures in Palm
>>> Beach, one of four shark-feeding tour companies in Florida.
>>> 
>>> Tour captains argued that feedings are educational because they teach
>>> people sharks are not
>>> the aggressive killers they often are perceived to be. They disputed
>>> claims by conservationists
>>> that feeding sharks puts people at risk because they learn to rely on
>>> them, and seek people for
>>> food.
>>> 
>>> But the commissioners appeared leery of both arguments. "We needed to
>>> have some comfort
>>> that we weren't altering the sharks' behavior, and we just couldn't get
>>> that," Commission
>>> Chairman David Meehan said.
>>> 
>>> Ironically, Meehan said, it was videotapes provided by the shark tour
>>> guides in their own
>>> defense that convinced him the practice could teach the predators
>>> dangerous habits.
>>> 
>>> "I didn't realize that there was such an abnormal concentration of
>>> sharks when they were fed
>>> until I saw the videos," Meehan said. "It was like they responded to the
>>> dinner bell."
>>> 
>>> Dan Wagner, an undersea documentary maker from Indialantic who feeds
>>> sharks to get his best
>>> shots, said the vote will cost the state tourist dollars.
>>> 
>>> "With no scientific proof that fish feeding underwater had anything to
>>> do with any attacks
>>> anywhere, the commission put four people out of business," he said.
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