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Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 14:08:39 -0700
From: Curt Degler <cdegler@be*.co*>
To: hphobbie@at*.ne*
Subject: Re: Florida panel bans shark feeding
>I think shark feeds are dumb

what an intelligent comment!

just as the analogy between opposing shark feeding and opposing state
regulation of caving. 

First they stop shark feeding, then they stop wet cavers. 

Pretty soon we have handgun regulation!

And commies in the white house!

I'd be embarrassed if I were you to post such drivel. 

Instead I'd work on opposing current rules against feeding gators and
bears. This is where the current stupidity started.

Everyone knows that the human provision of wild animals is without any
effect whatsover on their behavior. Its just common sense!

Curt Degler


Preston Hobbie wrote:
> 
> is almost like a Monty Python skit ... the sharks are attacking surfers in
> swimmers within yards of shore, at the surface, in dirty water, at dusk or
> dawn. So we ban shark feedings miles offshore, at 20-40 ft, in clear water,
> during the day
> 
> ..... she's a witch! ...
> 
> H. Preston Hobbie
> 317-894-9338
> http://home.att.net/~hphobbie/index.htm
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Holcomb [mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*]
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 6:28 AM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: Florida panel bans shark feeding
> 
> Folks need to take heed of this proposed ban.  I think shark feed dives are
> dumb.  BUT, if this ban takes effect it will have a NEGATIVE impact on all
> divers for sometime to come.  If these commissioners can come to the dumbass
> conclusions that they did on this issue and buckle under to political
> pressure and media hype, then who's next?  Keep in mind, on average more
> divers die in Florida caves than in any negative Florida shark "encounter".
> This proposed shark ban decision was made by 7 people in a state of
> millions.  How many will it take to close access to our caves next time we
> have another multiple fatality?  I suggest those of you who live in Florida
> write your representatives in opposition to this ban.  As I said at the
> beginning, I oppose shark feed dives - but one has to go with the lesser of
> two evils in this case.
> 
> Jim Holcomb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John M. Taylor" <johnt@ca*.co*>
> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:36 PM
> Subject: Florida panel bans shark feeding
> 
> > http://www.floridatoday.com/news/local/stories/2001/sep/loc090701i.htm
> >
> > Sept. 7, 2001
> >
> > Florida panel bans shark feeding
> >
> > By John Tuohy
> > FLORIDA TODAY
> >
> > AMELIA ISLAND, Fla. - In a swift change of course, environmental
> > regulators Thursday agreed
> > to ban shark feeding in Florida waters.
> >
> > The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission voted 6-1 to write
> > a rule that prohibits
> > feeding of sharks and other marine predators, including eels and rays.
> > The rule will be
> > considered at its next meeting Oct. 31.
> >
> > The action took diving tour operators, who feed the sharks to give scuba
> > diving tourists a
> > close-up look at them, by surprise. The commission had been expected to
> > consider only rules
> > to regulate, not ban, shark-feeding dives.
> >
> > "They basically bowed to pressure. They said let's bury these guys and
> > show the people of
> > Florida we are doing something about sharks, even though nobody has ever
> > been seriously
> > hurt on a dive," said Jim Abernathy, owner of Jim Abernathy's Scuba
> > Adventures in Palm
> > Beach, one of four shark-feeding tour companies in Florida.
> >
> > Tour captains argued that feedings are educational because they teach
> > people sharks are not
> > the aggressive killers they often are perceived to be. They disputed
> > claims by conservationists
> > that feeding sharks puts people at risk because they learn to rely on
> > them, and seek people for
> > food.
> >
> > But the commissioners appeared leery of both arguments. "We needed to
> > have some comfort
> > that we weren't altering the sharks' behavior, and we just couldn't get
> > that," Commission
> > Chairman David Meehan said.
> >
> > Ironically, Meehan said, it was videotapes provided by the shark tour
> > guides in their own
> > defense that convinced him the practice could teach the predators
> > dangerous habits.
> >
> > "I didn't realize that there was such an abnormal concentration of
> > sharks when they were fed
> > until I saw the videos," Meehan said. "It was like they responded to the
> > dinner bell."
> >
> > Dan Wagner, an undersea documentary maker from Indialantic who feeds
> > sharks to get his best
> > shots, said the vote will cost the state tourist dollars.
> >
> > "With no scientific proof that fish feeding underwater had anything to
> > do with any attacks
> > anywhere, the commission put four people out of business," he said.
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