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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 06:06:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>
Subject: Re: Re: Polypropylen underwear
To: Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Try two layers of Thinsulate. What are you doing head and hands wise for
thermal?
-----Original Message-----
From: "Gliviak, Jozef"<Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Thu Sep 06 02:32:03 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: Polypropylen underwear

>Guys, thanx a lot for your answers.
>Just to specify more what I meant - polypropylen seems to work when you deal
>with some levels of sweat. But in the moment you let accidentally some water
>in, let's say through neck seal, the water gets transported through polypro
>on the body and makes wet a quite large area and makes you cold. When the
>quantities on water are higher it seems that the transport function to outer
>layers just doesn't work as well as it works on pure Thinsulate which
>basically immediatelly takes the water away from your skin.
>
>Secondly the important for me is to have a recomendation from you what you
>use as a additional layer of insulation when just the Thinsulate is not
>enough. I'm talking about a dives in temp between 4-6C and duration of
>2+hours. Certainly I use argon, but I'm still cold on deco.
>
>Best regards
>Jozef Gliviak
>Slovakia
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sean T. Stevenson [mailto:ststev@un*.co*]
>Sent: 5. septembra 2001 16:42
>To: Gliviak, Jozef; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Re: Polypropylen underwear
>
>
>Josef, how wet was it?
>
>The polypropylene is recommended, not so much as additional insulative
>layering, but rather to provide a thin layer immediately adjacent to your
>skin that will take the sweat.  This way, you wash the 
>polypro and don't need to clean the Thinsulate as often, so it lasts longer.
>(Less laundering maintains maximum loft in the Thinsulate fibers, as well as
>its hydrophobic qualities).
>
>If you are not warm enough, you can add argon to the suit with additional
>weight to compensate.  The benefit of any additional insulative layering
>will probably not outweigh the disadvantage in loss 
>of dexterity.  The other option is of course, electric heat, using the Gorix
>type material.  I think both DUI and Typhoon offer suits like this, which
>are thin enough not to be a problem, but then you 
>have the additional expense, as well as having to deal with the battery
>pack.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>-Sean
>
>
>On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:59:48 +0100, Gliviak, Jozef wrote:
>
>>Guys, from various sources an underwear from polypropylene was recomended
>to
>>me as the right choice for dry suit bottom layer to be worn (e.g. under
>>thinsulate). According the information I've got it should transport water
>>(sweat) from your skin to upper layers.
>>
>>I tried it and was a bit disapointed. May be it works well in open air but
>>in closed enviroment when it was a bit wet it actually transported water
>>under thinsulate and made more body surface wet and cold. What's your
>>experience with this type of underwear?
>>
>>During those 4C dives which additional insulation do you use when yout
>>Thinsulate is not sufficient?
>>
>>Best regards
>>
>>  Jozef Gliviak
>>  Slovakia
>
>
>
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