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From: "Gliviak, Jozef" <Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Polypropylen underwear
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:32:03 +0100
Guys, thanx a lot for your answers.
Just to specify more what I meant - polypropylen seems to work when you deal
with some levels of sweat. But in the moment you let accidentally some water
in, let's say through neck seal, the water gets transported through polypro
on the body and makes wet a quite large area and makes you cold. When the
quantities on water are higher it seems that the transport function to outer
layers just doesn't work as well as it works on pure Thinsulate which
basically immediatelly takes the water away from your skin.

Secondly the important for me is to have a recomendation from you what you
use as a additional layer of insulation when just the Thinsulate is not
enough. I'm talking about a dives in temp between 4-6C and duration of
2+hours. Certainly I use argon, but I'm still cold on deco.

Best regards
Jozef Gliviak
Slovakia



-----Original Message-----
From: Sean T. Stevenson [mailto:ststev@un*.co*]
Sent: 5. septembra 2001 16:42
To: Gliviak, Jozef; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Polypropylen underwear


Josef, how wet was it?

The polypropylene is recommended, not so much as additional insulative
layering, but rather to provide a thin layer immediately adjacent to your
skin that will take the sweat.  This way, you wash the 
polypro and don't need to clean the Thinsulate as often, so it lasts longer.
(Less laundering maintains maximum loft in the Thinsulate fibers, as well as
its hydrophobic qualities).

If you are not warm enough, you can add argon to the suit with additional
weight to compensate.  The benefit of any additional insulative layering
will probably not outweigh the disadvantage in loss 
of dexterity.  The other option is of course, electric heat, using the Gorix
type material.  I think both DUI and Typhoon offer suits like this, which
are thin enough not to be a problem, but then you 
have the additional expense, as well as having to deal with the battery
pack.

Hope this helps.

-Sean


On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:59:48 +0100, Gliviak, Jozef wrote:

>Guys, from various sources an underwear from polypropylene was recomended
to
>me as the right choice for dry suit bottom layer to be worn (e.g. under
>thinsulate). According the information I've got it should transport water
>(sweat) from your skin to upper layers.
>
>I tried it and was a bit disapointed. May be it works well in open air but
>in closed enviroment when it was a bit wet it actually transported water
>under thinsulate and made more body surface wet and cold. What's your
>experience with this type of underwear?
>
>During those 4C dives which additional insulation do you use when yout
>Thinsulate is not sufficient?
>
>Best regards
>
>  Jozef Gliviak
>  Slovakia



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