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mmmmm interesting although the name doesn't ring any bells to me !!
I run it through my Unix web server and i had a little
program ( holmes32 ) making some ping and finger ,while a silly
little pc was connected on hotmail.com with user name georgegivemeabreak.
the data filed when creating this account didn't say much so i decide to
ping and try through the floating IP address which immediately show the
provider ( ISP ) so.... knowing the provider and the floating ip address
i could trace the subnet mask and voilaa ! i was connected to the little
bad pc. The little bad pc has some pirate software with crazy registrations
that didn't make sense again but some originals also that this time had
the correct
name and address.....
Wel i think it wouldn't be nice to post the details i don't want any
lawsuits
after me but i guess i can do it from a fresh hotmail account !!
I Think i will name it anti_georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*
hey by the way what does red neck stand for ?
Manos
..
Trey wrote:
>It's is coming from an AOL account to a hotmail account, a real player.
>Another "helium diver" maybe? I think you have it with the "mommy" part, but
>then some of the dumb red necks out there appear like naive little kids in
>their collective ignorance.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Grey [mailto:grey@te*.ne*]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:58 PM
>To: givemeabreak george; trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Re: George has done it again!
>
>
>Why don't you go back home to Mommy and see if she will let you use your
>real name.
>Of course, that is if even she knows your real name.
>Later,
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "givemeabreak george" <georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*>
>To: <trey@ne*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:21 PM
>Subject: RE: George has done it again!
>
>
>>Trey
>>
>>You can whine all you want. Your scooters are sewer pipe and glue. Oh I
>>forgot "chemically welded" glue. What an asshole.
>>Why don't you post the real costs involved and just how much you are
>>
>ripping
>
>>off people with the glue and PVC. I should know. Your scooters are
>>
>breaking
>
>>constantly and must be returned for repair. Other designs such as the
>>
>silent
>
>>submersion have totally improved on the Gavin design
>>The only reason I have to use this hotmail account is that I am a WKPP
>>
>diver
>
>>and I do not want any repercussions on me or my friends.
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
>>>To: "givemeabreak george" <georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*>,
>>><techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>>Subject: RE: George has done it again!
>>>Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:16:49 -0400
>>>
>>>
>>>First of all, moron, who had built some 200 of them that are still in
>>>service an still covered under warranty and still are setting all the
>>>records? What makes you think we don't know what we are doing when nobody
>>>else seems to be able to get there?
>>>
>>>Mine are PVC for several good reasons, none of which you need to know.
>>>
>They
>
>>>are otherwise the way they are for good reasons you do not need to know.
>>>Anyone who does need to know has one or will talk to somebody who does
>>>
>and
>
>>>get one. However, asshole, you might want to ask when the last time
>>>
>"sewer
>
>>>pipe" came apart in a building or house? The bond is chemical, not
>>>
>"glue",
>
>>>and in some cases it is welded and bonded.
>>>
>>>The ss is still a total kluge. The inside compartment motor compartment
>>>
>is
>
>>>the stupidest thing I have ever seen and it will not hold its integrity.
>>>They have tried all kinds of fixes but it will not work the way they do
>>>
>it.
>
>>>That is all I will say about that part, I don't want them figuring it
>>>
>out.
>
>>>The wiring is a disgrace. It is cheap crap kluged together with bullshit
>>>connectors in every position.
>>>
>>>The motorcycle handle thing is the dumbest invention yet, and is
>>>
>worthless
>
>>>,
>>>causes all kinds of problems.
>>>
>>>The hdpe is too soft. It needs to be really thick ( they have the bodies
>>>
>an
>
>>>inch thick ) and it still flexes all over the place. Screws pull right
>>>
>out
>
>>>of it. All of these different plastics have their advantages and
>>>
>drawbacks,
>
>>>and I actually could make one with certain parts HDPE, and do it right,
>>>
>but
>
>>>there is no need. Most people are fooled by the end taper on that thing,
>>>whereas the problem with that is that this leaves the motor too close to
>>>the
>>>body, and the fact is at the speeds we run, there is no need for any
>>>tapering. There are other ratios that determine drag in these designs,
>>>
>and
>
>>>again, I will not discuss them.
>>>
>>>Now, whose scooters hold the European and World cave distance record,
>>>
>whose
>
>>>scooters are in the hands of the most number of dive teams who really do
>>>anything, whose scooters have been backed fully for nine years, whose
>>>scooters are the best performing, whose scooters are designed by real
>>>engineers and people who really know this stuff, and whose are in the
>>>
>hands
>
>>>of the strokes?
>>>
>>>By the way, why is it that you weenies can not use your real name when
>>>lying? Are you that scared of me, or are you just another resentful
>>>
>little
>
>>>liar?
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: givemeabreak george [mailto:georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:53 PM
>>>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>>Subject: George has done it again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Trey wrote:
>>>>None of you morons even understand why we do what we do, and I am sick
>>>>
>of
>
>>>>explaining it over and over only to have you screw it up , misinterpret
>>>>
>>>it,
>>>
>>>>and drivel about it when none of you has the experience to tie my shoes
>>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>>JJ's.
>>>>As for this scooter thread, if anyone wants to know why the silent
>>>>submersion ' is a ghastly piece of crap, I'll be glad to explain that
>>>>
>as
>
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>Well.....yes George I would like to hear why the Silent Submersion is a
>>>piece of crap since your scooters are made of sewer pipe and glue. The
>>>
>only
>
>>>thing in sewer pipe is crap. Who's the moron here?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>Trey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Bullshit - how many have YOU built? Anyone out there who has a problem
>>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>>one of mine speak up. There is a far better solution and I use it. You
>>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>>really too much.
>>>>
>>>>In reply Doug Chapman wrote:
>>>>George,
>>>>It is my business (and I'm damn good at it) building systems that are
>>>>
>>>used
>>>
>>>>in ocean service that in all reality dwarf the technical challenge of
>>>>
>>>your
>>>
>>>>scooters. I don't build dive scooters, but I have designed and built
>>>>
>many
>
>>>>remote tethered and untethered deep ocean marine vehicles including
>>>>
>ROVs,
>
>>>>AUVs,manned submersibles, towed acoustic sound sources,
>>>>
>>>submarine-launched
>>>
>>>>probe systems, submarine systems, various oceanographic
>>>>
>instrumentations,
>
>>>>to
>>>>name a few blah blah blah. 'Don't think for a second that a dive
>>>>
>scooter
>
>>>>is
>>>>technically challenging to everyone.
>>>>Perhaps you think your scooter is the most technically challenging
>>>>
>ocean
>
>>>>system in the whole wide world? I hope not; if you do then you are a
>>>>fool,I've seen your scooters in their smallest detail. They are OK,
>>>>
>>>simple,
>>>
>>>>reliable, low cost - great for their application. 'But you could still
>>>>learn
>>>>a thing or two. The corrosion system I described works and has been
>>>>
>>>working
>>>
>>>>for years; perhaps yours does too.
>>>>Fine! Let's hear it. You should really learn about people before you
>>>>
>>>assume
>>>
>>>>too much and get over your head,technically speaking.
>>>>
>>>George you really put your foot in your big alligator mouth that time.
>>>Since you are the bigtime expert on EVERYTHING from Apex regs to Zebra
>>>mussels, tell us your brillant Jerry Lewis solution to the corrosion
>>>problem. Also please tell us how much expertise you have in designing and
>>>building remote tethered and untethered deep ocean marine vehicles
>>>including
>>>ROVs, AUVs,manned submersibles, towed acoustic sound sources,
>>>submarine-launched probe systems, submarine systems, and various
>>>oceanographic instrumentations.
>>>Please tell the US goverment how to do it so we can save millions in R&D.
>>>You really are a moron.
>>>Later.
>>>Give me a break Einstein.
>>>
>>>
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mmmmm interesting although the name doesn't ring any bells to me !!<br>
I run it through my Unix web server and i had a little <br>
program ( holmes32 ) making some ping and finger ,while a silly<br>
little pc was connected on hotmail.com with user name
georgegivemeabreak.<br>
the data filed when creating this account didn't say much so i decide to<br>
ping and try through the floating IP address which immediately show the<br>
provider ( ISP ) so.... knowing the provider and the floating ip address<br>
i could trace the subnet mask and voilaa ! i was connected to the little<br>
bad pc. The little bad pc has some pirate software with crazy
registrations<br>
that didn't make sense again but some originals also that this time had the
correct<br>
name and address.....<br>
<br>
Wel i think it wouldn't be nice to post the details i don't want any
lawsuits<br>
after me but i guess i can do it from a fresh hotmail account
!!<br>
I Think i will name it anti_georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*<br>
<br>
hey by the way what does red neck stand for ?<br>
<br>
Manos<br>
.. <br>
<br>
Trey wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:MABBKNLDLNNBFCMCJFMDKEPFDCAA.trey@ne*.co*">
<pre wrap="">It's is coming from an AOL account to a hotmail account, a
real player.<br>Another "helium diver" maybe? I think you have it with the
"mommy" part, but<br>then some of the dumb red necks out there appear like
naive little kids in<br>their collective
ignorance.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Dave Grey [<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:grey@te*.ne*">mailto:grey@telus.net</a>]<br>Sent: Wednesday,
September 05, 2001 10:58 PM<br>To: givemeabreak george; <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</a>; <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a><br>Subject
: Re: George has done it again!<br><br><br>Why don't you go back home
to Mommy and see if she will let you use your<br>real name.<br>Of course,
that is if even she knows your real
name.<br>Later,<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From:
"givemeabreak george" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc239
6E"
href="mailto:georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*"><georgegivemeabreak@hotmail.com>&
lt;/a><br>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:trey@ne*.co*"><trey@netdor.com></a>; <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"><techdiver@aquanaut.com></a><br
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:21 PM<br>Subject: RE: George has done
it again!<br><br><br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Trey<br><br>You can whine all you want. Your scooters
are sewer pipe and glue. Oh I<br>forgot "chemically welded" glue. What an
asshole.<br>Why don't you post the real costs involved and just how much you
are<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->ripping<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">off people with the glue and PVC. I should know. Your
scooters are<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->breaking<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">constantly and must be returned for repair. Other
designs such as the<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->silent<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">submersion have totally improved on the Gavin
design<br>The only reason I have to use this hotmail account is that I am a
WKPP<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->diver<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">and I do not want any repercussions on me or my
friends.<br><br><br><br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</a> (Trey)<br>To:
"givemeabreak george" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*"><georgegivemeabreak@hotmail.com>&
lt;/a>,<br><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"><techdiver@aquanaut.com></a><br
>Subject: RE: George has done it again!<br>Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:16:49
-0400<br><br><br>First of all, moron, who had built some 200 of them
that are still in<br>service an still covered under warranty and still are
setting all the<br>records? What makes you think we don't know what we are
doing when nobody<br>else seems to be able to get there?<br><br>Mine
are PVC for several good reasons, none of which you need to
know.<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->They<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">are otherwise the way they are for good
reasons you do not need to know.<br>Anyone who does need to know has one or
will talk to somebody who does<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->and<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">get one. However, asshole, you might want
to ask when the last time<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->"sewer<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">pipe" came apart in a building or
house? The bond is chemical, not<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->"glue",<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">and in some cases it is welded
and bonded.<br><br>The ss is still a total kluge. The inside compartment
motor compartment<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->is<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">the stupidest thing I have
ever seen and it will not hold its integrity.<br>They have tried all kinds
of fixes but it will not work the way they do<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->it.<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">That is all I will say
about that part, I don't want them figuring it<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->out.<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The wiring is a
disgrace. It is cheap crap kluged together with bullshit<br>connectors in
every position.<br><br>The motorcycle handle thing is the dumbest
invention yet, and is<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->worthless<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">,<br>causes
all kinds of problems.<br><br>The hdpe is too soft. It needs to be really
thick ( they have the bodies<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->an<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">inch thick )
and it still flexes all over the place. Screws pull right<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->out<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">of it.
All of these different plastics have their advantages and<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->drawbacks,<br></pre>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<blockquote
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">and I
actually could make one with certain parts HDPE, and do it
right,<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->but<br></pre>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<blockquote
type="cite">
<pre
wrap="">there is no need. Most people are fooled by the end taper on that
thing,<br>whereas the problem with that is that this leaves the motor too
close to<br>the<br>body, and the fact is at the speeds we run, there is
no need for any<br>tapering. There are other ratios that determine drag in
these designs,<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->and<br></pre>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<blockquote
type="cite">
<pre
wrap="">again, I will not discuss them.<br><br>Now, whose scooters hold
the European and World cave distance record,<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->whose<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre
wrap="">scooters are in the hands of the most number of dive teams who really
do<br>anything, whose scooters have been backed fully for nine years,
whose<br>scooters are the best performing, whose scooters are designed by
real<br>engineers and people who really know this stuff, and whose are in
the<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre
wrap=""><!---->hands<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">of the strokes?<br><br>By the way, why is it that you
weenies can not use your real name when<br>lying? Are you that scared of me,
or are you just another resentful<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->little<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">liar?<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
givemeabreak george [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:georgegivemeabreak@ho*.co*">mailto:georgegivemeabreak@hotmail.com&l
t;/a>]<br>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:53 PM<br>To: <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a><br>Subject
: George has done it again!<br><br><br><br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Trey wrote:<br>None of you morons even understand why we do
what we do, and I am sick<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->of<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">explaining it over and over only to have you screw it up ,
misinterpret<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">it,<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">and drivel about it when none of you has the experience to tie
my shoes<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">or<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">JJ's.<br>As for this scooter thread, if anyone wants to know
why the silent<br>submersion ' is a ghastly piece of crap, I'll be glad to
explain that<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->as<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">well.<br><br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Well.....yes George I would like to hear why the Silent
Submersion is a<br>piece of crap since your scooters are made of sewer pipe
and glue. The<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->only<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">thing in sewer pipe is crap. Who's the moron
here?<br><br><br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
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<blockquote type="cite">
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<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">.<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Trey wrote:<br><br>Bullshit - how many have YOU built?
Anyone out there who has a problem<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">with<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">one of mine speak up. There is a far better solution and I use
it. You<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">are<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">really too much.<br><br>In reply Doug Chapman
wrote:<br>George,<br>It is my business (and I'm damn good at it) building
systems that are<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">used<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">in ocean service that in all reality dwarf the technical
challenge of<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">your<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">scooters. I don't build dive scooters, but I have designed and
built<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->many<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">remote tethered and untethered deep ocean marine vehicles
including<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->ROVs,<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">AUVs,manned submersibles, towed acoustic sound
sources,<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">submarine-launched<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">probe systems, submarine systems, various
oceanographic<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->instrumentations,<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">to<br>name a few blah blah blah. 'Don't think for a second
that a dive<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->scooter<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">is<br>technically challenging to everyone.<br>Perhaps you
think your scooter is the most technically challenging<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->ocean<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
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<pre wrap="">system in the whole wide world? I hope not; if you do then you
are a<br>fool,I've seen your scooters in their smallest detail. They are
OK,<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">simple,<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">reliable, low cost - great for their application. 'But you
could still<br>learn<br>a thing or two. The corrosion system I described
works and has been<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">for years; perhaps yours does too.<br>Fine! Let's hear it.
You should really learn about people before you<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">assume<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">too much and get over your head,technically
speaking.<br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">George you really put your foot in your big alligator mouth
that time.<br>Since you are the bigtime expert on EVERYTHING from Apex regs
to Zebra<br>mussels, tell us your brillant Jerry Lewis solution to the
corrosion<br>problem. Also please tell us how much expertise you have in
designing and<br>building remote tethered and untethered deep ocean marine
vehicles<br>including<br>ROVs, AUVs,manned submersibles, towed acoustic
sound sources,<br>submarine-launched probe systems, submarine systems, and
various<br>oceanographic instrumentations.<br>Please tell the US
goverment how to do it so we can save millions in R&D.<br>You really are
a moron.<br>Later.<br>Give me a break
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