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I appreciate the response. No problem.
Jim Holcomb
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Trey=20
To: Jim Holcomb ; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com=20
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters
It was not you, it was one of the usual complaining detractors. The =
one thing that the assholes are succeeding in doing is making JJ =
paranoid about publishing, which hurts everyone. What he is doing is =
putting the stuff online so it can get weeded out before he goes to =
print. As you all know, I save my real information for people who are =
not assholes and my team. I then give it out freely, and if I make a =
typo, my logic is so sound that it is apparent and not an issue. JJ is =
trying to teach to an audience he can not see and is trying to cover all =
the bases. I am only interested in helping people who want help, not =
necessarily those who need it.
NOBODY has the wealth of information and practical knowledge that we =
do. Notice that those who want to fight that are all either dive =
instructors for some bullshit agency, or the kind of people they direct =
beer commercials at: fuckups who think diving will make them a cool guy. =
I am not talking to you , Jim, but you and the rest missed the whole =
point of this: you all said, "it IS there", not it "WAS" there. You saw =
how fast I made myself right - the time it took me to type the message. =
It was gone in 60 seconds, as they say. We don't do fucked up things, =
that is the realm of the other agencies. We DIR or not at all. I say =
"we" because GUE came from WKPP and JJ is my 11 year dive partner. I =
have nothing to do with GUE, Halcyon, EE or anything else. I am the =
Director of the WKPP, and that is it as far as my associations go. GUE =
does and teaches what we ( JJ and I ) developed at WKPP. Find that =
anyplace else, with or without typos.
Read and IANTD or TDI manual and then get back to me about good and =
bad. Be sure to get a fresh box of crayons, first.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Holcomb [mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:15 PM
To: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject: Re: Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters
Were you talking to me? Just in case you were, I had absolutely =
nothing to do with the thread about that shit. I rarely ever post on =
here. I do exactly like you say and keep my mouth shut and learn from =
the pros. I only responded when you came out with the shit about =
everybody being liars about the link. The link WAS there. As far as =
harassing somebody - fuck that - find a harassing post on here from me. =
My apologies for not notifying GUE of a typo on their website - I just =
assumed someone from GUE was following the thread.
Jim Holcomb
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Trey=20
To: Jim Holcomb ; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com=20
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters
If you morons knew it was bullshit, then you should have written =
to GUE or JJ, but no, you have to be assholes, and I will keep reminding =
you that you can not tie my shoes and you really don't know jack shit =
about DIR or you would not even think about that bullshit. You guys =
don't get it, and that is a FACT, as you say.
Shut the fuck up and try learning from the pros, not harassing =
them like cocker spaniels.=20
[trey]=20
iginal Message-----
From: Jim Holcomb [mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:31 PM
To: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject: Re: Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters
I'll only comment on what I know about:
FACT: The GUE site DID say that because I read it.
BUT: I kinda figured it was a typo.
AND: I also kinda figured that a couple were just using it to =
jerk your chain.
I'm one of those "pussy weenie divers" you often refer to. =
Haven't been full cave all that long. BUT,=20
I have been an outspoken advocate of the DIR philosophy amongst =
recreational divers and my fellow "pussy weenie" cave divers. With that =
said, this post sounded like someone needed to change their tampon.
Jim Holcomb
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Trey=20
To: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:12 PM
Subject: Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters
Will the list of morons who said that there was a web link to =
GUE which stated that 95's were required for classes please show me the =
link again. There is no such. You assholes are really getting to be a =
pain in the ass.Why don't you try learning from the pros instead of =
constantly fucking with them. None of you pussies dives, none of you =
pussies has done jack shit, and I am really sick of the constant crap =
surrounding GUE and the WKPP. You morons do what we do, then tell us how =
it is done.
The fact is that nobody but IANTD is stupid enough to have =
divers dive ocean with steel tanks and a wetsuit, the fact is that =
aluminum 80's are the tank of choice for ocean, 104's are the tank of =
choice for drysuit cave, and aluminum 80's are the tank for wetsuit =
cave. Florida is a drysuit cave dive, Mexico is a wetsuit cave dive.
None of you morons even understand why we do what we do, and I =
am sick of explaining it over and over only to have you screw it up , =
misinterpret it, and drivel about it when none of you has the experience =
to tie my shoes or JJ's.
I'll be glad to pick apart anything the rest of the agencies =
are doing ad infinitum, and I will show why what we do is right. Any =
time any of you want to argue that, I will make you look like the morons =
that you so obviously are.
As for this scooter thread, if anyone wants to know why the =
silent submersion ' is a ghastly piece of crap, I'll be glad to explain =
that as well.
None of you has a clue, trust me - not a fucking clue. What =
you do and what we do are galaxies apart. Let me quite Lee Iacocca , =
"Lead, follow , or get out of the way".
None of you can lead, and I personally don't want you =
following me and screwing is it up, so get out of our way.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I appreciate the response. No =
problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Jim Holcomb</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dtrey@ne*.co* href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">Trey</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djimholcomb@x-*.co*=20
href=3D"mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*">Jim Holcomb</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com">Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 02, =
2001 8:15=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Morons ,
bullshit =
and crappy=20
scooters</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D194350312-02092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It=20
was not you, it was one of the usual complaining detractors. The one =
thing=20
that the assholes are succeeding in doing is making JJ paranoid about=20
publishing, which hurts everyone. What he is doing is putting the =
stuff online=20
so it can get weeded out before he goes to print. As you all know, I =
save my=20
real information for people who are not assholes and my team. I then =
give it=20
out freely, and if I make a typo, my logic is so sound that it is =
apparent and=20
not an issue. JJ is trying to teach to an audience he can not see and =
is=20
trying to cover all the bases. I am only interested in helping people =
who want=20
help, not necessarily those who need
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN=20
class=3D194350312-02092001></SPAN><FONT face=3DTahoma>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D194350312-02092001><FONT
=
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>NOBODY has the wealth of information =
and practical=20
knowledge that we do. Notice that those who want to fight that are all =
either=20
dive instructors for some bullshit agency, or the kind of =
people=20
they direct beer commercials at: fuckups who think diving will =
make them=20
a cool guy. </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194350312-02092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D194350312-02092001>I am not
talking =
to you ,=20
Jim, but you and the rest missed the whole point of this: you all =
said, "it IS=20
there", not it "WAS" there. You saw how fast I made myself right - the =
time it=20
took me to type the message. It was gone in 60 seconds, as they say. =
We don't=20
do fucked up things, that is the realm of the other agencies. We DIR =
or not at=20
all. I say "we" because GUE came from WKPP and JJ is my 11 year dive =
partner.=20
I have nothing to do with GUE, Halcyon, EE or anything else. I am the =
Director=20
of the WKPP, and that is it as far as my associations go. GUE does and =
teaches=20
what we ( JJ and I ) developed at WKPP. Find that anyplace else, with =
or=20
without typos.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194350312-02092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D194350312-02092001>Read and IANTD
or =
TDI manual=20
and then get back to me about good and bad. Be sure to get a fresh box =
of=20
crayons, first.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194350312-02092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194350312-02092001> </SPAN>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jim Holcomb=20
[mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September =
01, 2001=20
9:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
Morons ,=20
bullshit and crappy scooters<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Were you talking to me? Just in case =
you=20
were, I had absolutely nothing to do with the thread about =
that=20
shit. I rarely ever post on here. I do exactly like you =
say=20
and keep my mouth shut and learn from the pros. I only =
responded=20
when you came out with the shit about everybody being liars about =
the=20
link. The link WAS there. As far as harassing somebody - =
fuck=20
that - find a harassing post on here from me. My apologies for not =
notifying=20
GUE of a typo on their website - I just assumed someone from GUE was =
following the thread.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Jim Holcomb</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dtrey@ne*.co* =
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">Trey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djimholcomb@x-*.co*=20
href=3D"mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*">Jim Holcomb</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com">Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September
=
01, 2001=20
6:40 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Morons , =
bullshit and=20
crappy scooters</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D310073722-01092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>If you morons knew it was bullshit, then you should have =
written to=20
GUE or JJ, but no, you have to be assholes, and I will keep =
reminding you=20
that you can not tie my shoes and you really don't know jack shit =
about=20
DIR or you would not even think about that bullshit. You guys =
don't get=20
it, and that is a FACT, as you say.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D310073722-01092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D310073722-01092001></SPAN><FONT =
face=3DTahoma><SPAN=20
class=3D310073722-01092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Shut the=20
fuck up and try learning from the pros, not harassing them like =
cocker=20
spaniels. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN
class=3D310073722-01092001><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>[trey] </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D310073722-01092001> </SPAN>iginal=20
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jim Holcomb=20
[mailto:jimholcomb@x-*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, =
September 01,=20
2001 10:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
Morons , bullshit and crappy
scooters<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I'll only comment on what I know=20
about:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>FACT: The GUE site DID say that because =
I read=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>BUT: I kinda figured it was a =
typo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>AND: I also kinda figured that a couple =
were just=20
using it to jerk your chain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I'm one of those "pussy weenie divers" =
you often=20
refer to. Haven't been full cave all that long. BUT, =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I have been an outspoken advocate of the =
DIR=20
philosophy amongst recreational divers and my fellow "pussy =
weenie" cave=20
divers. With that said, this post sounded like =
someone=20
needed to change their tampon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Jim Holcomb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dtrey@ne*.co* =
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">Trey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com">Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
August =
30, 2001=20
9:12 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Morons , =
bullshit and=20
crappy scooters</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Will the list of morons who said that there =
was a web=20
link to GUE which stated that 95's were required for classes =
please=20
show me the link <SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001>a</SPAN>gain.<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>=20
</SPAN>There is no such. You assholes are really getting to be =
a pain=20
in the ass.Why don't you try learning from the pros instead of =
constantly fucking with<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001> =
</SPAN>them.=20
No<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001>ne</SPAN> of yo<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001>u</SPAN> pussies dives, non<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001>e</SPAN> of you pussies has done =
j<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001>a</SPAN>ck shit,<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001> </SPAN>and I am really sick of the =
constant<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001> </SPAN>crap =
surrounding GUE=20
and the WKPP. You<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001> =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>morons do what we do, then tell us how it is =
done.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>The fact is that nobody but IANTD is
st<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>u</SPAN>pid enough to have divers =
dive<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001> </SPAN>ocean with steel tanks and =
a wetsuit,=20
the fact is that aluminum 80's are<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>=20
</SPAN>the tank of choice for ocean, 104's are the tank of =
choice for=20
drysuit cave,<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001> </SPAN>and =
aluminum 80's=20
are the tank for wetsuit cave. Florida is a drysuit cave<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001> </SPAN>dive, Mexico is a wetsuit =
cave=20
dive.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Non<SPAN
class=3D733330401-31082001>e</SPAN> =
of you=20
mo<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001>r</SPAN>ons even understand =
why we do=20
what we do, and I am sick of<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001>=20
</SPAN>explaining it over and over only to have you screw it =
up ,=20
misinterpr<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001>e</SPAN>t
it,<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001> </SPAN>and drivel about it when =
none of you=20
has the experience to tie my shoes or<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>=20
</SPAN>JJ's.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I'll be glad to pick apart anything the rest =
of the=20
agencies are doing ad<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001> =
</SPAN>infinitum,=20
and I will show why wh<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>a</SPAN>t we do=20
is right. Any time any of yo<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>u</SPAN>=20
wan<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001>t </SPAN>to argue that, I =
will make=20
you look like the morons th<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>a</SPAN>t=20
yo<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001>u</SPAN> so obv<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001>io</SPAN>usly<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2>are.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>As for this scooter thread, if anyone wants =
to know=20
why th<SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001>e</SPAN>
silent<SPAN=20
class=3D733330401-31082001> </SPAN>submersion ' is a ghastly =
piece of=20
crap, I'll be glad to explain that as<SPAN =
class=3D733330401-31082001>=20
</SPAN>well.</FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001><FONT size=3D2>None of
you =
has a clue,=20
trust me - not a fucking clue. What you do and what we do=20
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001><FONT =
size=3D2>are galaxies=20
apart. Let me quite Lee Iacocca , "Lead, follow , or get out =
of the=20
way".</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001><FONT size=3D2>None of
you =
can lead,=20
and I personally don't want you following me and screwing =
is it=20
up, </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001><FONT =
size=3D2>so get=20
out of our way. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=3D733330401-31082001><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT=20
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size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BL
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