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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 14:31:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters
From: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>, "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
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Okay, I'll bite.  Please tell us what is wrong with the Silent Submersion
scooter.  Some friends and I are actively considering pro-level scooter
purchases in the next year or so (Have two crappy Makos already, obviously).

We have also heard that there is at least a 9-month wait for Gavins, and
that Trey is the sole source for production.

We also wonder what there is to a scooter, other than a rewound Mako motor
and a cylindrical hull?

I know the downsides to the Mako: no access to the leaky motor compartment,
oval hull with leaky o-rings, both hands required for good control, low
depth limit (180fsw if you're lucky), difficult to replace battery quickly
with spare, etc.

All comments welcome.  Thank you.

Cam

From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:12:18 -0400
To: "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters


Will the list of morons who said that there was a web link to GUE which
stated that 95's were required for classes please show me the link again.
There is no such. You assholes are really getting to be a pain in the
ass.Why don't you try learning from the pros instead of constantly fucking
with them. None of you pussies dives, none of you pussies has done jack
shit, and I am really sick of the constant crap surrounding GUE and the
WKPP. You morons do what we do, then tell us how it is done.

The fact is that nobody but IANTD is stupid enough to have divers dive ocean
with steel tanks and a wetsuit, the fact is that aluminum 80's are the tank
of choice for ocean, 104's are the tank of choice for drysuit cave, and
aluminum 80's are the tank for wetsuit cave. Florida is a drysuit cave dive,
Mexico is a wetsuit cave dive.

None of you morons even understand why we do what we do, and I am sick of
explaining it over and over only to have you screw it up , misinterpret it,
and drivel about it when none of you has the experience to tie my shoes or
JJ's. 

I'll be glad to pick apart anything the rest of the agencies are doing ad
infinitum, and I will show why what we do is right. Any time any of you want
to argue that, I will make you look like the morons that you so obviously
are. 

As for this scooter thread, if anyone wants to know why the silent
submersion ' is a ghastly piece of crap, I'll be glad to explain that as
well. 

None of you has a clue, trust me - not a fucking clue. What you do and what
we do are galaxies apart. Let me quite Lee Iacocca , "Lead, follow , or get
out of the way". 

None of you can lead, and I personally don't want you following me and
screwing is it up, so get out of our way.












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Okay, I'll bite.  Please tell us what is wrong with the Silent Submers=
ion scooter.  Some friends and I are actively considering pro-level sco=
oter purchases in the next year or so (Have two crappy Makos already, obviou=
sly).<BR>
<BR>
We have also heard that there is at least a 9-month wait for Gavins, and th=
at Trey is the sole source for production.<BR>
<BR>
We also wonder what there is to a scooter, other than a rewound Mako motor =
and a cylindrical hull?<BR>
<BR>
I know the downsides to the Mako: no access to the leaky motor compartment,=
 oval hull with leaky o-rings, both hands required for good control, low dep=
th limit (180fsw if you're lucky), difficult to replace battery quickly with=
 spare, etc.<BR>
<BR>
All comments welcome.  Thank you.<BR>
<BR>
Cam<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<B>From: </B>trey@ne*.co* (Trey)<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:12:18 -0400<BR>
<B>To: </B>"Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>=
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<B>Subject: </B>Morons , bullshit and crappy scooters<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Will the list of morons who said that there
was =
a web link to GUE which stated that 95's were required for classes please sh=
ow me the link again. There is no such. You assholes are really getting to b=
e a pain in the ass.Why don't you try learning from the pros instead of cons=
tantly fucking with them. None of you pussies dives, none of you pussies has=
 done jack shit, and I am really sick of the constant crap surrounding GUE a=
nd the WKPP. You morons do what we do, then tell us how it is done.</FONT>
<=
BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">The fact is that nobody but IANTD is stupid enough to have
d=
ivers dive ocean with steel tanks and a wetsuit, the fact is that aluminum 8=
0's are the tank of choice for ocean, 104's are the tank of choice for drysu=
it cave, and aluminum 80's are the tank for wetsuit cave. Florida is a drysu=
it cave dive, Mexico is a wetsuit cave dive.</FONT> <BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">None of you morons even understand why we do what we do,
and=
 I am sick of explaining it over and over only to have you screw it up , mis=
interpret it, and drivel about it when none of you has the experience to tie=
 my shoes or JJ's.</FONT> <BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">I'll be glad to pick apart anything the rest of the
agencies=
 are doing ad infinitum, and I will show why what we do is right. Any time a=
ny of you want to argue that, I will make you look like the morons that you =
so obviously are.</FONT> <BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">As for this scooter thread, if anyone wants to know why the
=
silent submersion ' is a ghastly piece of crap, I'll be glad to explain that=
 as well.</FONT> <BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">None of you has a clue, trust me - not a fucking clue. What
=
you do and what we do are galaxies apart. Let me quite Lee Iacocca , "L=
ead, follow , or get out of the way".</FONT> <BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">None of you can lead, and I personally don't want you
follow=
ing me and screwing is it up, so get out of our way. <BR>
</FONT><BR>
 <BR>
<BR>
 <BR>
<BR>
 <BR>
<BR>
 <BR>
<BR>
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