Scott, JJ is providing the best training agency in the world. It is a not
for profit organization. He is giving people what WKPP members get. If it
were not for JJ, what we know would be available to the very few.

The alternatives are clearly worthless - we all can see that.

I am sick and tired of morons attacking these two organizations that have
done so much. It is always the same do nothing idiots over and over and
over. Nobodies from nowhere with nothing anyone wants. The best they can do
is 1) lie, 2) find typos, 3) twist the words around. None of these people
can touch my track record or JJ's.

As you said, I throw my tanks away and get new ones. Just to get a normal
fill on an 80 you have to overfill it so that it is some reasonable volume
when it cools down. This is massive stress even if you keep it under 3000.
The best bet is to dispose of them . $100 tanks are not worth getting
injured over. I want my tanks at 3000+ at 65 degrees. I have bought about 20
new ones this year alone. I'd like to donate some of my old ones to certain
members of this list - free.


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott and/or Julie Gudmundsen [mailto:gudmund@si*.co*]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:15 PM
To: charlie.allen@us*.ne*
Cc: Techdiver Mailing List
Subject: Re: 95 tank question, was RE:piece of shit Silent Submersion


Charlie,

Are you also aware that George Irvine has nothing to do with GUE / Halcyon /
Extreme Exposure? He's not a part owner, and instructor, or anything
connected to them. He's just J.J.'s dive buddy. He does what he wants and
doesn't answer to GUE, etc.

You should also be aware that George throws away all his 80 cu ft. tanks
after a couple years of use and buys new ones since he overfills them as he
states...

Now you can relax.

Scott Gudmundsen
Vernal, Ut
My Techdiving site at: www.fotofixer.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <charlie.allen@us*.ne*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>; "Paul M. Deniston" <pdeniston@me*.ne*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; "Steve Schultz"
<se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>; "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*>;
"Rocky" <rocdiver@be*.ne*>; "marv" <ajmarve@op*.ne*>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: 95 tank question, was RE:piece of shit Silent Submersion


> Unfortunately, many DIR divers take your comments as the absolute final
> words-of-wisdom.  So there is significant danger that they would read
> your comments and assume that filling AL80's to 3500psi is a good
> practice.  After all, GI3 said so.
>
> It doesn't help that the only reason stated for many other DIR practices
> is simply "GI3 says so and anybody that disagrees is an idiot".
>
> Have a nice day.  Do you have an unfilled lithium prescription?
>
>         Charlie Allen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 08:47 PM
> Subject: 95 tank question, was RE:piece of shit Silent Submersion
>
>
> > First of all, fuck you asshole. I hate idiots like you. Secondly, this
> is
> > all bullshit since there IS NO LINK that says use "95's". I made an
> off the
> > cuff comment that 80's are about 95 at 3500, and that has nothing to
> do with
> > GUE or anyone else. I also said there is no link and there is no such
> > requirement. We all know the logic of what tanks to use when and
> where.
> > Obviously you do not.
> >
> > We have a complete set of ironclad reasons why we do what we do, and
> morons
> > like you and the rest of the out of context, typo monger, words in
> peoples
> > mouths assholes need to be treated like the petty little pussies that
> you
> > are.
> >
> > Now , which one of you morons wants to show me that link or show me
> where
> > GUE requires 95's? They do not. Period
>
>
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