Marv,

I think you are missing Cobbs point.  The scooters don't mean jack to us.
If our scooter fails it is just as easy to swim back to the anchor line or
shoot a bag and do our deco.  The scooter, for us, is not critical.  It is
used only to save bottom gas (less effort) and reduce CO2 loading.  We also
use it to dig but who cares if the thing dies......it just doesn't matter.
It's a whole different story for cave divers especially for serious
penetrations.

Todd Clagett

-----Original Message-----
From: marv [mailto:ajmarve@op*.ne*]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:11 AM
To: terry michael
Cc: Jim Cobb; MHK; Michael J. Blitch; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor


JIm's thing< and its not just Jim, there is a small group now> is that
the only tanks for drysuit is the double 104's. this is despite
commentary from George himself that for ocean, you dont need all that
gas even in a drysuit and that double 80s should be enuff for most of
what one might attempt.< "for ocean the aluminum 80 is the tank of
choice">  The rationale seems to be  taught by most of your tek agencies
that you can never have enuff gas because "you never know what is going
to happen" and people find this more comforting to embrace than the fact
that they need to exercise aerobically for diving.

Personally i would suggest that you plan your dive and dive your plan,
altering the plan only in the direction of being conservative during a
dive. < i.e. less bottom time>. I would also suggest that if your going
to carry a major reserve of one dive parameter<gas> you should have
equvalent supply of any other<scooter/light burn>.

Finally i would suggest that anyone who cant understand why huge tanks
and a tiny scooter might not be a good idea should reread the last
paragraph of Gavin's chapter and look in the mirror.

marv

ps i wear dbl 80s, drive a mako and set the treadmill on speed 8 at
least once a day.



terry michael wrote:

> Are we talking about diving thirds here or what? This is a public list
please explain what you are trying to tell us.

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*>
> To: "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*>
> Cc: "MHK"<mhkane@pr*.ne*>, "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>, "Michael J.
Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Date: Mon Aug 27 10:37:44 PDT 2001
> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
>
>> so what are you saying Jim, that you dont plan your dives or dont have
>> the discipline to follow that plan ?
>>
>> you are on the right track with respect to less is best, you just need
>> to take it all the way.
>>
>> marv
>>
>> Jim Cobb wrote:
>>
>>> Gas=Life. Is that real enough for you?
>>>
>>>    Jim
>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
>>>
>>>> From: marv <ajmarve@op*.ne*>
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:11:57 -0400
>>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
>>>> Cc: MHK <mhkane@pr*.ne*>, terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>, "Michael J.
>>>> Blitch" <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
>>>>
>>>> and yet you doggedly defend the concept of carrying three times as much
>>>> gas as needed for a given dive< see any old dbl 80 vs 104 thread.>
>>>>
>>>> Marv
>>>> <keepin' it real, yo>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Cobb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would still like something smaller, don't see the point in carrying
2
>>>>> hours worth of burn time on a dive were your actual scooting time is
around
>>>>> 20 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
>>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
>>>
>>>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> GO.com Mail
> Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
>
>
>
>

--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]