Not possible. You are thinking of IANTD. -----Original Message----- From: Paul M. Deniston [mailto:pdeniston@me*.ne*] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:37 AM To: Rocky; Steve Schultz; terry michael Cc: marv; Jim Cobb; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor I believe if you look at the required equipment for tech I section of the GUE web page, they specify 95's or larger. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky" <rocdiver@be*.ne*> To: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>; "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*> Cc: "marv" <ajmarve@op*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor > Who told you GUE Tech 1 requires twin 95s? If diving wet, as most do for > Tech 1, twin 80s are the norm . . . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*> > To: "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*> > Cc: "marv" <ajmarve@op*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>; > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor > > > > > > I own double 80's and double 104's. The 80's are feather light, and the > 104's aren't bad, but I'm in the gym every day. > > > > I dive cold water and need a ton of lead with my 80's. I wear no lead > with my 104's (and alum backplate) > > > > I feel like I have better trim with my 104's than my 80's. It's probably > in my head. The 104's feel better on my back (subjective I know). It's > easier for gas matching since my buddies also dive 104's (you dive thirds, > don't you?) > > > > It's also a matter of convienience. I fill my 104's to 3000. Last > weekend I did 2 light deco dives in 110'. I got off the boat and did a > shore dive with a new diver. He emptied his 80, and I still had gas in my > tanks for another shore dive. I couldn't have done this with 80's. > > > > For anyone who is considering buying 80's or 104's, I leave you with this > thought. They both have good and bad characteristics, but if you are > planning on GUE training, TECH 1 requires at least twin 95's which makes > your twin 80's useless for the course (except as stages) ;-) > > > > ss > > > > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, terry michael wrote: > > > > > Again, I'm losing you here. Could you elaborate on this dive planning > stuff and exactly how it works. thanks > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*> > > > To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*> > > > Cc: "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*>, "MHK"<mhkane@pr*.ne*>, > "Michael J. Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > Date: Mon Aug 27 23:11:07 PDT 2001 > > > Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor > > > > > > >JIm's thing< and its not just Jim, there is a small group now> is that > > > >the only tanks for drysuit is the double 104's. this is despite > > > >commentary from George himself that for ocean, you dont need all that > > > >gas even in a drysuit and that double 80s should be enuff for most of > > > >what one might attempt.< "for ocean the aluminum 80 is the tank of > > > >choice"> The rationale seems to be taught by most of your tek > agencies > > > >that you can never have enuff gas because "you never know what is going > > > >to happen" and people find this more comforting to embrace than the > fact > > > >that they need to exercise aerobically for diving. > > > > > > > >Personally i would suggest that you plan your dive and dive your plan, > > > >altering the plan only in the direction of being conservative during a > > > >dive. < i.e. less bottom time>. I would also suggest that if your going > > > >to carry a major reserve of one dive parameter<gas> you should have > > > >equvalent supply of any other<scooter/light burn>. > > > > > > > >Finally i would suggest that anyone who cant understand why huge tanks > > > >and a tiny scooter might not be a good idea should reread the last > > > >paragraph of Gavin's chapter and look in the mirror. > > > > > > > >marv > > > > > > > >ps i wear dbl 80s, drive a mako and set the treadmill on speed 8 at > > > >least once a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >terry michael wrote: > > > > > > > >> Are we talking about diving thirds here or what? This is a public > list please explain what you are trying to tell us. > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*> > > > >> To: "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*> > > > >> Cc: "MHK"<mhkane@pr*.ne*>, "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>, > "Michael J. Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > >> Date: Mon Aug 27 10:37:44 PDT 2001 > > > >> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor > > > >> > > > >>> so what are you saying Jim, that you dont plan your dives or dont > have > > > >>> the discipline to follow that plan ? > > > >>> > > > >>> you are on the right track with respect to less is best, you just > need > > > >>> to take it all the way. > > > >>> > > > >>> marv > > > >>> > > > >>> Jim Cobb wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Gas=Life. Is that real enough for you? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Jim > > > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> From: marv <ajmarve@op*.ne*> > > > >>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:11:57 -0400 > > > >>>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> > > > >>>>> Cc: MHK <mhkane@pr*.ne*>, terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>, > "Michael J. > > > >>>>> Blitch" <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> and yet you doggedly defend the concept of carrying three times as > much > > > >>>>> gas as needed for a given dive< see any old dbl 80 vs 104 thread.> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Marv > > > >>>>> <keepin' it real, yo> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Jim Cobb wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> I would still like something smaller, don't see the point in > carrying 2 > > > >>>>>> hours worth of burn time on a dive were your actual scooting time > is around > > > >>>>>> 20 minutes. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > >>>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ___________________________________________________ > > > >> GO.com Mail > > > >> Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > > GO.com Mail > > > Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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