Who told you GUE Tech 1 requires twin 95s?  If diving wet, as most do for
Tech 1, twin 80s are the norm . . .

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>
To: "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*>
Cc: "marv" <ajmarve@op*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor


>
> I own double 80's and double 104's.  The 80's are feather light, and the
104's aren't bad, but I'm in the gym every day.
>
> I dive cold water and need a ton of lead with my 80's.  I wear no lead
with my 104's (and alum backplate)
>
> I feel like I have better trim with my 104's than my 80's.  It's probably
in my head.  The 104's feel better on my back (subjective I know).  It's
easier for gas matching since my buddies also dive 104's (you dive thirds,
don't you?)
>
> It's also a matter of convienience.  I fill my 104's to 3000.  Last
weekend I did 2 light deco dives in 110'.  I got off the boat and did a
shore dive with a new diver.  He emptied his 80, and I still had gas in my
tanks for another shore dive.  I couldn't have done this with 80's.
>
> For anyone who is considering buying 80's or 104's, I leave you with this
thought.  They both have good and bad characteristics, but if you are
planning on GUE training, TECH 1 requires at least twin 95's which makes
your twin 80's useless for the course (except as stages) ;-)
>
> ss
>
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, terry michael wrote:
>
> > Again, I'm losing you here. Could you elaborate on this dive planning
stuff and exactly how it works. thanks
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*>
> > To: "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>
> > Cc: "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*>, "MHK"<mhkane@pr*.ne*>,
"Michael J. Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Date: Mon Aug 27 23:11:07 PDT 2001
> > Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
> >
> > >JIm's thing< and its not just Jim, there is a small group now> is that
> > >the only tanks for drysuit is the double 104's. this is despite
> > >commentary from George himself that for ocean, you dont need all that
> > >gas even in a drysuit and that double 80s should be enuff for most of
> > >what one might attempt.< "for ocean the aluminum 80 is the tank of
> > >choice">  The rationale seems to be  taught by most of your tek
agencies
> > >that you can never have enuff gas because "you never know what is going
> > >to happen" and people find this more comforting to embrace than the
fact
> > >that they need to exercise aerobically for diving.
> > >
> > >Personally i would suggest that you plan your dive and dive your plan,
> > >altering the plan only in the direction of being conservative during a
> > >dive. < i.e. less bottom time>. I would also suggest that if your going
> > >to carry a major reserve of one dive parameter<gas> you should have
> > >equvalent supply of any other<scooter/light burn>.
> > >
> > >Finally i would suggest that anyone who cant understand why huge tanks
> > >and a tiny scooter might not be a good idea should reread the last
> > >paragraph of Gavin's chapter and look in the mirror.
> > >
> > >marv
> > >
> > >ps i wear dbl 80s, drive a mako and set the treadmill on speed 8 at
> > >least once a day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >terry michael wrote:
> > >
> > >> Are we talking about diving thirds here or what? This is a public
list please explain what you are trying to tell us.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: "marv"<ajmarve@op*.ne*>
> > >> To: "Jim Cobb"<cobber@ci*.co*>
> > >> Cc: "MHK"<mhkane@pr*.ne*>, "terry michael"<OEA51@go*.co*>,
"Michael J. Blitch"<mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > >> Date: Mon Aug 27 10:37:44 PDT 2001
> > >> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
> > >>
> > >>> so what are you saying Jim, that you dont plan your dives or dont
have
> > >>> the discipline to follow that plan ?
> > >>>
> > >>> you are on the right track with respect to less is best, you just
need
> > >>> to take it all the way.
> > >>>
> > >>> marv
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim Cobb wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Gas=Life. Is that real enough for you?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>    Jim
> >
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> > >>>>> From: marv <ajmarve@op*.ne*>
> > >>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:11:57 -0400
> > >>>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> > >>>>> Cc: MHK <mhkane@pr*.ne*>, terry michael <OEA51@go*.co*>,
"Michael J.
> > >>>>> Blitch" <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Silent Submersion Vs Dacor
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and yet you doggedly defend the concept of carrying three times as
much
> > >>>>> gas as needed for a given dive< see any old dbl 80 vs 104 thread.>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Marv
> > >>>>> <keepin' it real, yo>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jim Cobb wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I would still like something smaller, don't see the point in
carrying 2
> > >>>>>> hours worth of burn time on a dive were your actual scooting time
is around
> > >>>>>> 20 minutes.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
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