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From: "Thom Hadfield" <thom.hadfield@ho*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Chris Tibble" <chris.tibble@bt*.co*>
Subject: Re: Translation: DCS incident
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:34:29 -0400
In most casses honey attracts more than vinigar. Maybe you shouldn't have to
translate


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Tibble" <chris.tibble@bt*.co*>
To: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Translation: DCS incident


> You owe me a keyboard! <G>
>
> That's one for the keepers file.
>
> Chris
>
> P.S. I even had milk coming out of my nose... I haven't had that happen
> since I was about 3!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 1:54 PM
> Subject: Translation: DCS incident
>
>
> >
> > Trey said:
> >
> > > Marie, you are a complete moron. I run the most successful dive
project
> in
> > > diving and have LONG AGO sought out and used the real resources in
this
> > game
> > > that have allowed us to do what we do so successfully, and have
> > accumulated
> > > a track record that you will never understand, as well as developed
> > > decompression techniques that are now recognized as the correct way to
> do
> > > this, and have nothing to do with the slop out of DAN , PADI or Navy.
> >
> > Translation:
> >      Marie, perhaps you are not aware of the requisite information to
> arrive
> > at an informed opinion on this matter. Please allow me to elucidate;
While
> > the good doctor you are citing certainly has an impressive curriculum
> vitae,
> > I have quite an extensive background, both theoretical and practical, in
> the
> > decompression arts. Arthur C. Clarke`s third law states: "Any
sufficiently
> > advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." so I can
understand
> > (especially after the PADI/DAN "explanations") how you may see
> decompression
> > as some modern form of physiological alchemy.
> >
> > Trey said:
> > > Why don't you find out who and what we are before you get on here like
> an
> > idiot
> > > and start recommending that we all go re read our PADI tables. Should
we
> > > stay three squares from a black box, Marie, or is the good "doc" still
> > > trying to figure that one out?
> >
> > Translation:
> > There is an ancient saying, "Don't beard the lion in his den" and I am
> > afraid that is what you, albeit inadvertently, have done. You see, we've
> > been developing and doing this for more than ten years. In the process
we
> > have run experiments that could never have gotten approval for human
> subject
> > testing (Helsinki protocols), we've worked with some of the (real)
leaders
> > in decompression theory, and the Navy actually came to us to see how we
> > handled decompression. Now really, do you think that we should throw all
> > that away and reference standards developed for the bloated masses and
> > padded with "liability insurance"?
> >
> > Trey said:
> > > Notice that the original question addressed me, not you, and the
correct
> > > answer was given. This is not rec scuba, by the way. If you think the
> word
> > > "bullshit" is "profanity", then maybe you should stop bullshitting.
> >
> > Translation:
> > While this is an open forum and your input is certainly welcome at some
> > level, the question specifically asked for my response. You may notice
> that
> > as people wean themselves from their instructors, rec.scuba, and the
> various
> > magazines (edited by the usual suspects- if you know what I mean) they
> tend
> > to seek out and find the real authorities for answers to their
questions.
> > Surprisingly, these real authorities are not the academic collection of
> > has-beens and wannabes but the people who actually dive. I have a hard
> time
> > understanding why this isn't as crystal clear to everyone as it is to
me.
> If
> > my frustration was evidenced by using language that was inappropriate
for
> > you, I apologize. Of course it's not as important that the message be
> > accurate and truthful but that you feel good about the delivery.
> >
> > Trey said:
> > > I'll start sending everyone to you , PADI and DAN when they ask me a
> deco
> > > question. Your vast experience reading "Alert Diver" will be a big
help
> to
> > > them all, I am sure.
> >
> > Translation:
> > Despite my confusion over why inexperienced divers pursue questionable
> > "authorities" I believe that they have every right to do so. Just as I
> have
> > become the defacto authority on real diving, these people need a central
> > figure to help them understand about not holding your breath as you
ascend
> > and other complex issues detailed in the PADI and DAN publications. I
> think
> > your grasp of the big picture qualifies you for this leadership position
> and
> > I hope you accept the role you are naturally destined to fill. The
> services
> > you can provide the community are invaluable. Good luck.
> >
> >
> > Chris Elmore
> > PalmettoSoft Technologies Corp.
> > (803) 233-2001 (work)
> > (803) 348-3055 (mobile)
> >
> >
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