Mailing List Archive

Mailing List: techdiver

Banner Advert

Message Display

Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:43:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Translation: DCS incident
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Chris Elmore <elmorec@at*.ne*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
And people accuse *me* of not providing a coke alert...

   Jim
 -------------------------------------------------------------------
 Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/

> From: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:54:36 -0400
> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Translation: DCS incident
> 
> 
> Trey said:
> 
>> Marie, you are a complete moron. I run the most successful dive project in
>> diving and have LONG AGO sought out and used the real resources in this
> game
>> that have allowed us to do what we do so successfully, and have
> accumulated
>> a track record that you will never understand, as well as developed
>> decompression techniques that are now recognized as the correct way to do
>> this, and have nothing to do with the slop out of DAN , PADI or Navy.
> 
> Translation:
> Marie, perhaps you are not aware of the requisite information to arrive
> at an informed opinion on this matter. Please allow me to elucidate; While
> the good doctor you are citing certainly has an impressive curriculum vitae,
> I have quite an extensive background, both theoretical and practical, in the
> decompression arts. Arthur C. Clarke`s third law states: "Any sufficiently
> advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." so I can understand
> (especially after the PADI/DAN "explanations") how you may see decompression
> as some modern form of physiological alchemy.
> 
> Trey said:
>> Why don't you find out who and what we are before you get on here like an
> idiot
>> and start recommending that we all go re read our PADI tables. Should we
>> stay three squares from a black box, Marie, or is the good "doc" still
>> trying to figure that one out?
> 
> Translation:
> There is an ancient saying, "Don't beard the lion in his den" and I am
> afraid that is what you, albeit inadvertently, have done. You see, we've
> been developing and doing this for more than ten years. In the process we
> have run experiments that could never have gotten approval for human subject
> testing (Helsinki protocols), we've worked with some of the (real) leaders
> in decompression theory, and the Navy actually came to us to see how we
> handled decompression. Now really, do you think that we should throw all
> that away and reference standards developed for the bloated masses and
> padded with "liability insurance"?
> 
> Trey said:
>> Notice that the original question addressed me, not you, and the correct
>> answer was given. This is not rec scuba, by the way. If you think the word
>> "bullshit" is "profanity", then maybe you should stop bullshitting.
> 
> Translation:
> While this is an open forum and your input is certainly welcome at some
> level, the question specifically asked for my response. You may notice that
> as people wean themselves from their instructors, rec.scuba, and the various
> magazines (edited by the usual suspects- if you know what I mean) they tend
> to seek out and find the real authorities for answers to their questions.
> Surprisingly, these real authorities are not the academic collection of
> has-beens and wannabes but the people who actually dive. I have a hard time
> understanding why this isn't as crystal clear to everyone as it is to me. If
> my frustration was evidenced by using language that was inappropriate for
> you, I apologize. Of course it's not as important that the message be
> accurate and truthful but that you feel good about the delivery.
> 
> Trey said:
>> I'll start sending everyone to you , PADI and DAN when they ask me a deco
>> question. Your vast experience reading "Alert Diver" will be a big help to
>> them all, I am sure.
> 
> Translation:
> Despite my confusion over why inexperienced divers pursue questionable
> "authorities" I believe that they have every right to do so. Just as I have
> become the defacto authority on real diving, these people need a central
> figure to help them understand about not holding your breath as you ascend
> and other complex issues detailed in the PADI and DAN publications. I think
> your grasp of the big picture qualifies you for this leadership position and
> I hope you accept the role you are naturally destined to fill. The services
> you can provide the community are invaluable. Good luck.
> 
> 
> Chris Elmore
> PalmettoSoft Technologies Corp.
> (803) 233-2001 (work)
> (803) 348-3055 (mobile)
> 
> 
> --
> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
> 


--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]