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Date: 31 Jul 2001 21:27:55 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <Cobber@ci*.co*>
Subject: Re: On high current diving
To: Thom Hadfield <thom.hadfield@ho*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Dearest Thom-

I neither believe nor disbelieve your 7 knot currents. I guess I'd say I'd have
to see it to believe it.

At any rate I the picture I had in my mind of being towed through the water at
7 knots was outlined in my post, nothing more.

And to be pissed off over such a blatantly silly post as mine points out some
problems at your end, not mine, Sir. Perhaps an adjustment of your medication
would be in order.

I suppose there are various ways to glamorize quarry and river diving, but I
think that they are a different type of diving than ocean diving, presenting
different, though lessor, challenges. But if that's all you've got then that's
all you've got, I suppose.

But I do admit to having a hard time feeling Manly Appreciation for those who
drive their auto up to the lip of the water (fresh water, usually) don their
equipment at their leasure on a dainty tarp so as to not dirty their feet. And
then step into the water to knee depth, halting to adjust their gear and
contemplate life before proceeding into the depths.

No, a dive just does not seem to be a dive unless you have spent hundreds of
dollars on a boat trip, spent hours listening to the deafening roar of diesel
engines, and either froze or sweated (or both at the same time) in your bunk
wondering if you are going to get barfed on again. Ah, yes, and the oders
eminating from the head. 

And it's just not the same if you don't wreck your back and smash your
elbows/fingers/knees/shins getting on/off the pitching, rolling boat, have
people stomp on and drop heavy shit on your feet and suffer the ravages of salt
water and diesel fumes on your hair, eyes, skin and dive equipment.

I'm not a horse higher than any of my other ocean diving brethren. I just can't
resist tweaking you quarry and river types. Go out and do a few ocean dives and
you may find out why you don't get much sympathy from me (and apparently a few
others) on this list. Keep it light, Thom, we are just having a little fun.

 Jim

On Monday, July 30, 2001 11:21 PM, Thom Hadfield <thom.hadfield@ho*.co*>
wrote:
>Well, as the original post that led to this thread my point would be get
>your facts straight before accusing others of lying about what they dive.
>Cobb jumped my shit when I was telling the truth about a dive I try to do
>once a week at least. And just because his dive style isn't one that works
>well in high current doesn't mean that those of us who regularly dive these
>currents are lying about our dives. That pissed me off. I have been honest
>in all my post and took advice and flames alike. Cobb seems to think he is
>on a high horse. I respect alot of his posts but when your wrong your wrong.
>I have a lot to learn and am training and advancing my training weekly. I am
>learning deep diving but that is not the only type of advanced and tech
>diving out there.
>
>
>Get the facts first Cobb.  And well it looks like Black spoke to soon as
>well.
>
>
>Anyways enough bitching this is all about diving right.
>
>Thom
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
>To: "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:02 PM
>Subject: Re: On high current diving
>
>
>> Poor Cobb, not only is he stupid and ugly, he can't even lie well.
>>
>> Have a nice day, Cobber ("why anybody would want to cripple themselves
>> with a wrist deco computer is beyond me")!
>>
>> MJB ;-)
>>
>>
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