Does anyone have experience with the OWS suits (I think it's OWS). 
They use system where you get in the front, and then the extra fabric 
is tied behind your back.  It looked like a good alternative to the 
DUI telescoping system.


Mark Wan wrote:
~
>HI Richard,
>
>I'm another long-time lurker.  I have two otter membrane drysuits.  They're
>pretty good, but they have some disadvantages over the DUIs.
>
>For example, there is a seam running down the outside of each leg, which
>means that it is more difficult to stitch a pocket to the sides.
>
>At the time I bought them, I was looking into Hogarthian gear configuration,
>so I did not really mind them being on the front of my legs.
>
>The suits have held up for a couple of years, without any leaks, but I could
>be a statistically anomaly.
>
>I think the website is http://www.drysuits.co.uk/
>
>My older suit is the "Hammerhead" tri-lam, and my more recent suit (2 years
>old) is the "Britannic Technical".
>
>And no, I did not buy it because it said technical...  I was looking for an
>affordable front-entry suit at the time.  And at the dive show in London, it
>cost me half the price of the DUI CF200X.
>
>BTW, DUI has a patent on the telescoping torso, so you won't find this on
>the Otters.  Hence it can be harder to get into and out of, than a DUI.
>
>Just my $0.02c
>
>Rgds
>mark
>
>
>On 13/7/01 2:08, "Richards, Simon" <richardss@nm*.co*> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Hi.  I've been reading this site for a while, and I have found some very
>>  useful advice here (someone said "A wise man does not learn from his
>>  mistakes", and this must be true for technical diving as you often don't
>>  survive your mistakes).
>>
>>  For background, I have about 4 years open water experience and am a keen
>>  (and OK) photographer.  This year I started cave diving (intro to cave in
>>  Mexico, in a wetsuit), which was an eye-opener.  I am sorting out my gear in
>>  a local quarry for a return trip to Mexico and hopefully full cave, and then
>>  I hope to try Florida (do the whole course again in a drysuit?).  My kit is
>>  basically configured DIR style, but this is because it seems to make sense
>>  to me and I can't see any obvious fatal flaws, not because of "religion"
>>  (but I do rather like the idea that I have the WKPP team testing "my" gear
>>  configuration "for me" at 300 feet at no risk or cost to myself - thanks
>>  guys!).
>>
>>  I would appreciate views on two questions:
>>
>>  (1)  I have a DUI CF200 drysuit, and I think I was originally taught not to
>>  use the wings underwater for buoyancy control, just the suit.  I have seen
>>  the occasional reference here to using the wings underwater, but I have done
>>  a search and couldn't see any definitive advice.  A couple of times (but not
>>  always) I have felt that I couldn't get enough buoyancy on the drysuit
>>  alone, and have got through a lot of air inflating the suit and then having
>>  it blow out of the neck seal (I've never had any water come in).  Was this
>>  the wrong body position, overweighting, neck seal cut too loose, or just bad
>>  diving?  Should I have put some air into my wings?  Basically, I think I'm
>>  asking "how do I dive (properly, in the real world with big buoyancy changes
>>  during a dive as air is used) in a drysuit?"
>>
>>  (2)  My buddy wants a drysuit and her funds are limited.  She is looking at
>>  something called an "Otter", which is a laminate I believe.  I think George
>>  Irvine has recommended DUI TLS on this site, but she cannot afford one.
>>  Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with Otters?
>>
>>  You can see that we are a long way off doing any serious dives yet, but we
>>  would like to get there slowly over the next year or two and to buy the
>>  right equipment now.
>>
>>  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>  Simon Richards
>>
>>
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