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I'd agree with Art. Ed: Try using shockcord instead of tubing for your necklace. It's a lot easier to tie, and it's way more durable. B Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* wrote: > Ed, not intended as a flame but it seems from the past 2 questions about > around the neck strangulation and surgical tube ditching make me think that > you probably listened to someone who didn't know the first thing about DIR > and you didn't check it out for yourself. I too was not initially at all > DIR, pretty much the opposite. I have to say that the questions you are > asking never even entered into my mind when deciding if DIR rigging was > right or not. It's a really simple set up, that's the point! No fancy > clips to undo on the BC, no excessive lift, no backup BS when not needed, no > snag points, etc. Really wish you had actually looked into the rigging > yourself vs. just listening to someone. Would be really interesting to know > who was the person who "enlightened" you about DIR. If you listen to what > people are telling you here you will quickly realize that the person who > told you all these things about why DIR is wrong didn't know what they were > talking about at all!!! > > Art. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Burke [mailto:donburke56@ne*.ne*] > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:15 AM > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com; Ed Street > Subject: Re: DIR setup > > Ed, > > You're using tubing that is too strong or the wrong attachment or both. > > My reg will pop out of the necklace if I give it a good yank and I can break > the tubing easily. > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ed Street <blacknet@ph*.ne*> > To: Don Burke <donburke56@ne*.ne*> > Sent: 05 July, 2001 10:57 > Subject: RE: DIR setup > > > Hello, > > > > Another thing I have problems with is my training taught me that scuba > > equipment is expendible, and your life is not. You CAN ditch your rig w/ > no > > problem in a very short time. With the surgical tubing around your neck > for > > your octo it makes it just another delay in ditching the rig. Personaly I > > find it easier if the octo goes on the inflator hose, but that's me. > > > > Ed > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don Burke [mailto:donburke56@ne*.ne*] > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:53 AM > > To: Ed Street; techdiver@aquanaut.com > > Subject: Re: DIR setup > > > > > > Ed, > > > > That's an easy fix. > > > > Use a traditional length octopus hose for that regulator. I don't recall > > the length, but it's something like 50 inches. It isn't much of an issue > > unless there are restricted spaces involved > > > > I dove that way until I got to a point where I could deal with a 7 foot > long > > hose and the only reason I dive with a long hose now is to enhance my > > ability to rescue someone. > > > > The "around the neck" issue is more psychological than real. The long > hose > > comes from the right post regulator, down to the belt, up the center of > the > > chest, behind the neck (left to right) and to the second stage in your > > mouth. > > > > There is no hose at your throat. If someone grabs the long hose, they > will > > be pulling on your jaw and your belt, not your throat. > > > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ed Street <blacknet@ph*.ne*> > > To: Don Burke <donburke56@ne*.ne*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Sent: 04 July, 2001 21:35 > > Subject: RE: DIR setup > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > The part that gives me trouble is the long hose. I understand why it's > > there > > > and purpose etc.. but it's location irks me. Wraping around the neck is > > > just asking for trouble if someone yanks it from behind and you'll be > > > strangled quickly, thus having 2 incapacitated divers. I don't have a > > > solution but I see it as a serious problem as you have NO idea how > person > > X > > > will act in a panic situation untill they freak. It may not even be > > someone > > > that's in your group as it could be a neighboring group of divers in the > > > area. > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Don Burke [mailto:donburke56@ne*.ne*] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:45 PM > > > To: Ed Street; techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > Subject: Re: DIR setup > > > > > > > > > From: Ed Street <blacknet@ph*.ne*> > > > > > > > Well if you did actually know what your talking about instead of > > > sprouting > > > > crap about me you would know that I HAVE tried it and I didn't like it > > nor > > > > will I use it again as in my case it makes absolutely NO sence to use > > it. > > > > > > > > > What parts of DIR gave you trouble? > > > > > > > > > NetZero Platinum > > > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > > > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > > > http://www.netzero.net > > > > > > > > > > > > NetZero Platinum > > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > > http://www.netzero.net > > > > > > NetZero Platinum > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://www.netzero.net > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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