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From: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>
To: "Techlist" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Fw: Hardened
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:00:32 -0700
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From: "Trey"
To: "Scott" ; XXXXXXXXX
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Hardened
> Scott, put this on techdiver

Put it on Techdiver, aye.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:10 AM
> To: Trey; XXXXX
> Subject: Re: Hardened

> Its bad and getting worse. IANTD is putting out strokes faster than we can
> unfuck them.
>
> Fucking *CLAUDIA MILZ* is an IANTD Instroketor! Little more than a
> year ago she washed out of GUE Cave 1,
> she cant admit that fact to anyone (a screaming red flag!), and now she is
> an IANTD Instroketor, and her buddy and fiancée
> just croaked, but she has a problem
> with *me* teaching people to dive Triox! Her arrogance, ego and stupidity
> makes Garrett's pale in comparison.
>
> What gets me is that all these people hate and attack DIR because it
> threatens some part of their little minds that lets them
> believe they know all when it comes to diving. I guess maybe they need to
> think they are the top of the ladder so they aren't scared to go
underwater.
>
> IANTD is becoming a deadly, communicable disease. What going to happen is
> the Government is going to get involved, and then kiss off He, home brew
> mixing, all of it. Its already, I understand, a pain in the ass to get He
in
> Florida because of IANTD and the deaths there. I think there should be
> enough evidence by now that a class action suit could be brought against
> IANTD and Mount, and just sue his ass out of business. The problem is,
> people line up to buy that shit!
>
> Weinberg was a diving motherfucker. Something else was wrong, but I doubt
> very seriously we will ever know exactly.
> Besides all the damage control and bullshit Mount is proffering, the only
> witness is a known liar and egomaniac, Claudia.
> And you can bet your eye teeth Mount has been coaching her *very*
carefully.
> This one was a learning experience for me. What I learned is just what a
> lowlife scumbag Mount is. This shit has a pattern that I am just now
> beginning to see:
>
> 1) Accident happens, someone dies.
> 2) Mount posts up disinformation and outright conjecture and lies as fact.
> 3) People beat him up for his stupidity and stubborn unwillingness to
> change, and for the number of stiffs surrounding him.
> 4) He falls back on the moral and emotional "high ground" because we dare
to
> disparage a dead person, and although *he* was first to post conjecture as
> fact, he then begins hammering others for doing the same thing he did to
> start with.
> 5) A few more "facts" surface, and Mount throws the damage control spin on
> it, adding to the confusion.
> 6) People become polarized, as Mount has turned it into a "Them against
Us"
> issue.
> 7) He stands back and shuts up, and all the "experts" put up theories and
> bullshit, and the truth gets lost in the confusion and noise, and the
> spotlight is removed from the person it should be shining on most
brightly,
> Tom Mount.
> 8) After the funeral, the deceased is put up as "a great explorer and
leader
> in the diving community."
>
> Seems kinda strange how this rebreather keeps killing people, and IANTD
> keeps pushing the fucking thing. Anything for an easy buck.
>
> Bottom line is Garrett was dead before he got out of the cab of his truck.
> If not this time, then some other time,  as sure and eventual as the
> sunrise. I told Ron, Ratfuck, you, and everyone else that would loan me an
> ear, two years ago, that Weinberg was going to kill someone or get killed.
>
> He made several *major* mistakes:
>
> 1) Having Claudia as a buddy. This right here was the final nail in his
> coffin. No matter what his problems were, *she* should have fixed them.
Shit
> bro, if you and I were diving and you started having inflation problems, I
> would grab my trauma shears and cut the friggin inflator hose, or a hole
in
> the sleeve of your suit, *anything* but watch you float away. *If* that's
> even what happened. Claudia's word is a little bit less than worthless.
>
> 2) Pulling 300 foot bounces on a rebreather just to log a "300 footer".
> Guess he wont be bragging this dive off in the parking lot, will he?
>
> 3) Playing with rebreathers. Again, no more braggin rights. These people
are
> snobs. They need something to dump $20 grand into, so they can be better
> than the next guy. Same shit as buying a fucking "Eddie Bauer" Explorer.
> Ego, vanity and arrogance. "When I dive my rebreather..." That's what its
> all about. Mount knows *exactly* what he is doing, and so did Weinberg.
>
> 4) Playing with 300 footers. Ridiculous. Period.
>
> 5) No support. Zero. Nothing. His accident response is to crawl out onto
the
> boat ramp, and croak "Call 911" to a passing pedestrian. He may as well
have
> been diving solo.
>
> 6) Thinking he was the end all do all diver. I took one nitrox blending
> class and nitrox cert class from him, and was in the middle of Adv. Nitrox
> when I bailed on him and his "methods". The IANTD training regimen is
> designed as much to keep the lawyers happy, and to allow the introketor to
> hose the student unnecessarily and repeatedly (ask XXXXXX) as it is
teaching
> you the skills you need to know to survive underwater. How much you wanna
> bet that friggin Expiration harness has a peck strap that fouled the
> inflator hose? Why else couldn't he disconnect it or turn off the friggin
> bottle?
>
> I expect the ME and the investigating body to be wowed by Weinberg's stack
> of IANTD credentials, confused by the rebreather (the "inspection" was
done
> three days after Claudia took it home rendering the "inspection"
worthless),
> and
> unable to figure out WTF *really* happened, and rule it an accidental
death.
> The idiots are already lining it up to blame
> his Weezle underwear!
>
> The thing that killed Garret was IANTD, arrogance, complacency and his
> choice of a buddy.
>
> Through GI (who flamed my ass off many times) you and I have learned to
> recognize the beast and run from it.
>
> These idiots embrace the beast, and it eats them, one by one. Lately, I
just
> stand by and watch the show. They will either figure it out, or die, and I
> dont give a fuck which. They get no sympathy or post mortem respect.
>
> I bailed out on rec.scuba, the techlist, all of them for now. I just dont
> have time or energy to keep battling "wits" with the
> likes of know-it-alls like Marvelli, pure dickheads like Michael J. Black,
> Tom Mount and the rest of the hardened strokes that buy and wear his
bullshit.
>
> Every now and then I go off on someone on one of these lists, it's just
> inevitable.
>
> I am going to start hammering them on XXXXXX too. It's not going to
> become a safe haven for strokery.
>
> Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: XXXXXXXXXXX
> To: Scott
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:31 PM
> Subject: Hardened
>
>
> > Hey Scott,
> >     After Garret's death, I have become really intolerant of the bull
> shit. I
> > find myself becoming more and more disinterested in dealing with the
> dumbness
> > and just wanting to start fucking yelling at people.
> >     Scott, you have had this drilled for a while and have managed to
> maintain
> > a civil tone on XXXXXXX. I am just getting pissed off when I read the
> dumb
> > fuckery anywhere. I don't want to even look at strokes and recreational
> bull
> > shit anymore. When other guys we know croak thru Dive Biz bullshit, I
> think I
> > will grow even more intolerant, eventually I may just only open e-mail
> from
> > you, GMI and our boys.
> >
> > I have had it,
> > XXXXXXXXX

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