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From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
To: "Joseph Dituri" <dive4kix@ha*.rr*.co*>; "William J Turbeville II" =
<bturbo@ga*.ne*>
Cc: "iantdhq" <iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:03 PM
Subject: Fw: Weinberg is dead


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> To: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>; "Paul Braunbehrens"
> <Bakalite@ba*.co*>; "Robert M. Carmichael" <halcyon@ha*.ne*>;
> "Jj@Gu*.Co*" <jj@gu*.co*>; "Quest@Gu*. Com" <quest@gu*.co*>; "Trey"
> <trey@ne*.co*>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Weinberg is dead
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> > First it is not an IANTD diving accident it is a diving accident not =
related to iANTD nor any training agency

 Trey  Henery Kendahl had absobuletly nothing to do with IANTD he
> is
> > not a member and not trained by IANTD

You tend to see any accident and say IANTD is responsible regradless of =
the circumstance or if they had any involvement with IANTD

Trey you are the most cold hearted and rude human being I have ever met. =
You have no respect for anyone and no feelings for those who die nor =
their families or loved ones. You have promoted more hatred and cultism =
behaviour than anyone in the history of diving. Historically the people =
in the community have overall tried to work together, even through minor =
differences they may have had. You on the other hand just deal in hate =
and personal control. You are one sick human being

I had someone write me what is most likely a accurate account about you =
considering your known past addictions

After this is a accident report on Garrett for those who really are =
interested if you are just a George puppett skip over it because the =
truth may hurt you

Read below good description of George from a professional =20
>      Tom,
>
>      I have been reading your struggles with George Irvine over the =
past
> while. I think from reading George Irvine post's on Dirquest and also =
on
> lists where he pops up once in a while, that he has a disorder ...
> obviously. I think to pin point it however it would be called bipolar
> disorder. This is very common with alcoholics or former drug abusers. =
My
> buddy down in Florida told me he has gone out
> diving with Irvine and observed characteristics that he relayed back =
to me
> that would definitely put George in the symptom category of this =
serious
> problem. There are medications that people with this character
misalignment
> are prescribed.
>      I might be full of it but if you research Manic depressive, =
bipolar
> disorder or alcoholic bipolar disorder you will definitely see what I =
am
> talking about. I may be full of it but keep it in mind.
>
George it really does sound like you

For those interested please read below

> > Accident Report in Regard to Garrets Death
> > This is one of the rare times we have a detailed accident report to
> review:
> > Saturday June 23, 19:05, Garrett and Claudia started a dive to 300 =
feet at
> > Mukilteo, WA. The dive included a swim of 15 minutes down a gradual =
slope
> to
> > the planned 300-foot depth where 5 minutes were spent. The dive was
> planned
> > with software dive tables. Both knew the dive site very well.
> > Both were diving their inspiration units that had passed all =
pre-dive
> > checks. Onboard tanks were full (8/60 and O2), scrubber fresh (see =
below).
> > Also, they were carrying an Al80 (10/50) and an Al40 (O2) as bailout =
each,
> > equipped with inflator hoses, gauges, and second stage.
> > From descent to ascent, including the deep stops, everything went =
smoothly
> > like usual.
> > After leaving the 100 ft stop to 60 feet (20 ft/min) Garrett started =
to
> > display he was having a problem.
> > The Inspiration was functioning correctly and there were no PO2 =
problems,
> > nor other CCR related problems. The after-market ADV was disengaged =
as it
> > always was on ascent. No alarms, no malfunctions were taking place.
> > Claudia: Starting at 100 feet, he was suddenly behind me, not next =
to me
> or
> > slightly in front. I looked back and saw him getting rid of =
occasional
> water
> > in the breathing hose (normal, although he usually did not do it on
> ascent,
> > rather at the stop). He seemed to be struggling slightly with =
'something'.
> > (When someone had problems of any kind, they would stop and the =
buddy
> would
> > stop as well. In this case, although slightly slower, Garrett did =
not
> stop,
> > and no other communication indicated a serious problem, yet.)
> > Claudia: Then, arrived at the 60 ft stop, the communication was =
strange to
> > non-existent. All I understood, other than that he was getting in =
more and
> > more distress, was that his dry suit was not as quickly deflated. He
> showed
> > me that with opening the wrist seal slightly and bubbles coming out.
> Because
> > of the warm neck hood, it's very hard to open the neck seal that =
way, and
> > Garrett chose not to. "
> > Garrett presented more problems with buoyancy and a look of =
distress, and
> > surprise. After we had spent some time trying to stop the ascent by
> > releasing gas and swimming down - I could not get to the dry suit =
inflator
> > to detach it (although nothing indicated a runaway inflator) and =
worked on
> > the BC inflator - Garrett stopped kicking and continued to the =
surface. He
> > was just floating up, looking down to me. That look said that he =
knew what
> > was going to happen, and I did too."
> > (The longest deco in my life (60 minutes according to tables), on =
top a
> > stomach barotrauma that made breathing very hard.)
> > Comment: This is what we actually talked about with Leon yesterday
> > afternoon: Gary never really liked his deflator that does not have a =
rest
> > when fully opened, and together with the undergarment, it seemed =
difficult
> > to release the Argon in a timely manner. However, I have never seen =
him
> > having problems before.
> >
> > According to a person at the surface that came to help, Garrett went =
to
> the
> > boat ramp and climbed out of the water. He then collapsed on the =
boat
> ramp,
> > and the guy pulled him from the ramp up.
> >
> > Garrett said something about his dry suit to this person. He had him =
call
> > 911, told him about his buddy doing deco and to take care of her, =
and had
> > him help set up everything to breathe O2 until the ambulance would =
arrive.
> > He breathed oxygen until his onboard O2 was empty, and his stage / =
bailout
> > O2 to 1700 psi by the time the ambulance arrived to pick him up.
> > (Throughout the dive an ordeal. There was no alarm or even 'sanity =
break'
> at
> > any time. The scrubber was okay. Mine was new, his had 54 minutes on =
prior
> > to the dive.)
> > (Tom's comment) I think it is important that he made a conscious =
decision
> > not to descend back to his stop in the water and Garrett was fully =
aware
> of
> > the problems with an explosive decompression, so it would lead one =
to
> think
> > other factors many be involved. He also had adequate OC gas to do a =
deco
> > procedure, had OC gas been needed.
> > Claudia: We had talked about situations like that before and had he =
been
> > able to, he would have resumed his deco after fixing whatever =
problem he
> > had. I did not like the idea of leaving him alone when we discussed =
it,
> but
> > understand that otherwise we both would have been killed, and he =
never
> > wanted that to happen. In a similar situation, knowing that we were =
close
> to
> > the boat ramp on a Saturday evening with many people around, I would =
have
> > expected for him to stay down as well. A hard decision I never =
wanted to
> > have to make.
> > At the hospital where he also commented about his dry suit and then =
fell
> > unconscious after 5 minutes, due to his condition (good ECG at =
first, but
> a
> > drop to 40 over 20) he was treated for a heart attack (while =
explosive DSC
> > is life threatening, it was secondary to the seriousness of the =
heart
> attack
> > in the judgment of the attending physicians, and it is difficult if =
not
> > impossible to fully address the heart condition while in a chamber) =
for 5
> > hours prior to being placed in the chamber. 20 minutes into the =
chamber
> > treatment Garrett arrested and died.
> > Tom: Garrett was a really good friend and his loss saddens me =
greatly. He
> > had a tremendous amount of time on the inspiration (460 hours plus) =
and
> was
> > the most active instructor we have had on the west coast. And maybe =
the
> most
> > active inspiration instructor in the USA. We have shared many dives, =
deep
> > dives and recently he and Claudia went on a Blue Hole trip with =
several
> > others and myself. He was extremely competent and safety orientated. =
In
> fact
> > during a training program when he was doing his IT and Martin was =
doing
> his
> > instructors and Vicki her diver rating on the inspiration we =
hammered out
> > sequencing. On the skills that are now taught in the IANTD =
Inspiration
> > course. So he has contributed very much to our training programs and =
to
> > rebreather diving safety overall.
> >
> > Patti, IANTD and I wish for Garrett the happiest after life possible =
and
> > know his energy will always be with those he cared for.
> >
> > From everything from observations to the medical reaction and =
diagnosis at
> > he hospital it would have lead one to accept that Garrett had a =
heart
> > attack.
> >
> >  True without the complication of an explosive decompression he may =
have
> had
> > a higher probability of surviving.
> >
> > BUT after his body was reviewed by the ME the following was found
> >
> > Claudia: According to the examiner, no enzymes could be built within =
the
> > time frame of 5-6 'alive' hours that would let trace a heart attack, =
and
> > they were not found. The final report may be shared with me in about =
6-8
> > weeks. This morning, two friends of ours, and students of Garrett's, =
Ken
> > Rymal and Dave Hancock, and I were explaining the gear to the =
examiners to
> > shed some light for them on the subject. We tested the unit in front =
of
> > them, and everything worked properly.
> >
> > Garrett and I were to get married 5 July, and had many good plans =
for
> > training and service, and just going diving all over the place. =
After
> > talking to Leon that afternoon, we produced even more ideas while =
driving
> > from the lunch place up North to Mukilteo. Except for the harsh and =
unfair
> > end, it was one of, of not the happiest weekend we had ever spent.
> >
> > Tom: questions that remain:
> > 1. What caused Garret to make the decision not to solve the problem =
in
> water
> > (maybe due to physiological stress if in fact he was having a =
physical
> > problem as diagosed .by the doctors at the hosiptal and thus there
> decision
> > not to put him in the chamber )
> > 2. Why once on the surface he elected not to return to the stops =
after
> > dealing with any other problems (again suggesting there was =
something else
> > taking place)
> > 3. Why was he not put in the chamber earlier, (as stated by the =
attending
> > Doctor a heart attack but according to the ME no evidence of a heart
> attack
> >
> > So we may or may not discover the answers to these as well as what =
if any
> > role a problem with the dry suit may or may not have had on this =
accident.
> >
> > We do know it was not CCR related. And it appears that there was a
> > physiological problem taking place that influenced Garrett to allow
> himself
> > to go to the surface and to elect not to return to decompression.
> > It is sad that he was not placed in the chamber immediately as that =
would
> > have definitely increased the probability of his survival of the
> > decompression issue. But  the attending doctors (s) had to make a =
decision
> > based on what they perceived to be most life threatening.
> >
> > So we are still left with many questions
> >
> > We do know Garrett was extremely competent as a diver and highly
> experienced
> > on the inspiration  and that the inspiration was functioning =
throughout
> the
> > dive and post dive checks on it at the ME office
> >
> > Respectfully
> > Claudia Milz and Tom Mount
> > From Leon Scamahorn
> > I am at a loss.  Garrett, Claudia, and I had just finished having =
lunch
> and
> > talking about the Meg. I was looking forward to working with Garrett =
and
> > diving with him and Claudia.
> >
> > I wish everyone to know that I believe Garrett was a fine instructor =
and
> > probably the best one and diver in the country on the Inspiration. I =
will
> > feel his loss, and I think that we all will feel his loss in the =
diving
> > industry. He has been a positive influence to all those that =
understood
> him.
> >
> > Claudia, you have my best wishes.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Leon Scamahorn
> > CEO Innerspace Systems Corp.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; "Quest@Gu*. Com"
> > <quest@gu*.co*>; "Jj@Gu*.Co*" <jj@gu*.co*>; "Robert M. Carmichael"
> > <halcyon@ha*.ne*>; "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>;
> "Scott"
> > <scottk@nw*.co*>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: Weinberg is dead
> >
> >
> > > Tom, the only thing that could save more lives than that piece of =
shit
> > dying
> > > would be you retiring. I really hope you do not think anyone =
believes a
> > word
> > > that comes out of your mouth with regard to IANTD accidents.
> > >
> > > Why don't you make up another "stroke" shirt with a list of dead =
IANTD
> > > instructors and students on the back?
> > >
> > > Tell us which it is , Tom, was the cigarette smoking physical slob
> > Weinberg
> > > unfit to teach diving, or did he go hypoxic shallow while diving =
with a
> > > complete stroke who did not even notice? Either way, you are =
wrong.
> > >
> > > Tell us about the "heart attack" in the Netherlands during an =
IANTD deep
> > air
> > > course? Tell us again about Henry Kendall's heart attack ( ME got =
you
> guys
> > > there, with the help of our buddy at the Miami Herald). We can =
start
> doing
> > > that for all your "heart attacks", Tom. Freedom of Information =
Act.
> > >
> > > The inspiration , the CIs , the CCR and all the rest have killed =
way too
> > > many people, TOm, and the only persons benefiting are you and your
> > > "instructors" who get paid to "teach" these things. I realize this =
is
> even
> > > more lucrative than deep air, but you are not fooling anyone at =
all. You
> > are
> > > the lowest form of parasite on this planet, and before you die, =
everyone
> > > will recognize that , and hopefully you will die broke and with a
> severely
> > > guilty conscience for your lying, deceit, anything for a buck =
attitude
> and
> > > for fighting anyone and anything the ever made any sense.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Mount [mailto:TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:33 AM
> > > To: Quest@Gu*. Com; Jj@Gu*.Co*; Robert M. Carmichael; Trey; Paul
> > > Braunbehrens; Scott
> > > Subject: Re: Weinberg is dead
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > You are a cold total asshole,
> > >
> > > And Trey the total deaths by divers who used inspirations is 12
> > >
> > >
> > > Also Garrett did not die due to a CCR problem he had an actual =
heart
> > attack
> > > for real . But then facts do not matter to you. The rebreather was
> working
> > > correctly throughout the dive as verified by his dive buddy
> > >
> > > Tom.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>
> > > To: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>; "Trey"
> <trey@ne*.co*>;
> > > "Robert M. Carmichael" <halcyon@ha*.ne*>; "Jj@Gu*.Co*" =
<jj@gu*.co*>;
> > > "Quest@Gu*. Com" <quest@gu*.co*>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Weinberg is dead
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am trying to think of something good or nice to say, but I =
guess
> > that's
> > > > not my place. The only thing I feel right now is
> > > > a kind of numb anger.
> > > >
> > > > I took two courses from Weinberg almost 3 years ago. I am sorry =
he
> died,
> > > but
> > > > I am not surprised nor shattered.
> > > > Unfortunate, but entirely predictable. The pisser is it is so =
easily
> > > > avoidable. But ego and control get in the way.
> > > > He and his "methods" drove me straight to DIR.
> > > >
> > > > His arrogance at times was frightening, and I heard him say on =
more
> than
> > > one
> > > > occasion when a diver died:
> > > > "Darwin was right."  Many times I heard him call people idiots, =
often
> > > > hollering and loud in front of others.
> > > > He was loud, rude and expensive.
> > > >
> > > > People need to wake up and smell the coffee.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote =
out of
> > > thine
> > > > eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
> > > > Matthew 7:4
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
> > > > To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>; "Scott" <scottk@nw*.co*>; =
"Robert M.
> > > > Carmichael" <halcyon@ha*.ne*>; "Jj@Gu*.Co*" <jj@gu*.co*>;
> > "Quest@Gu*.
> > > > Com" <quest@gu*.co*>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 4:44 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Weinberg is dead
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That makes what, 19 now on the inspiration?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Trey wrote:
> > > > > ~
> > > > > >One more moron that I do not have to argue with . Now, does =
anyone
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > >tell me I am wrong when I keep being so right? Wienberg was =
one of
> > the
> > > > worst
> > > > > >influences ever in diving.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >These people are not only the worst strokes, they are like =
the guys
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > >last Indiana Jones movie who keep getting their heads cut =
off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Funny how my most outspoken enemies keep ending up dead, only =
I am
> > not
> > > > like
> > > > > >Clinton, I really do wait for them to just kill themselves, =
and I
> do
> > > not
> > > > > >even have to move them to the park bench.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >One more argument I just won: 6-love, golden set.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: Scott [mailto:scottk@nw*.co*]
> > > > > >Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:06 PM
> > > > > >To: Trey; Robert M. Carmichael; Jj@Gu*.Co*
> > > > > >Subject: Weinberg is dead
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Don't know if you guys heard, but Weinberg died diving his
> > Inspiration
> > > > with
> > > > > >Claudia Milz last friday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >They are calling it a heart attack.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Paul B.
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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Tom Mount
CEO IANTD World HQ
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<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Fw: Weinberg is dead</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Tom =
Mount" <<A=20
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><BR>>=20
To: "Scott" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:scottk@nw*.co*">scottk@nwtekk.com</A>>;=20
"Paul Braunbehrens"<BR>> <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*">Bakalite@bakalite.com</A>>; =
"Robert M.=20
Carmichael" <<A=20
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"<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Jj@Gu*.Co*">Jj@Gue.Com</A>" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jj@gu*.co*">jj@gue.com</A>>; "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Quest@Gu*">Quest@Gue</A>. Com" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A>>; "Trey"<BR>> =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>><BR>> Sent: =
Wednesday,=20
June 27, 2001 11:49 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: Weinberg is dead<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> > First it is not an IANTD diving accident it is a diving =
accident=20
not related to iANTD nor any training agency</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Trey  Henery Kendahl had absobuletly nothing to do with =
IANTD=20
he<BR>> is<BR>> > not a member and not trained by IANTD</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You tend to see any accident and say IANTD is responsible =
regradless of the=20
circumstance or if they had any involvement with IANTD</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Trey you are the most cold hearted and rude human being I have ever =
met.=20
You have no respect for anyone and no feelings for those who die nor =
their=20
families or loved ones. You have promoted more hatred and =
cultism=20
behaviour than anyone in the history of diving. Historically the people =
in the=20
community have overall tried to work together, even through minor=20
differences they may have had. You on the other hand just deal in =
hate and=20
personal control. You are one sick human being</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I had someone write me what is most likely a accurate account about =
you=20
considering your known past addictions</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>After this is a accident report on Garrett for those who really are =

interested if you are just a George puppett skip over it because the =
truth may=20
hurt you</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Read below good description of George from a professional =
 </DIV>
<DIV>>     =20
Tom,<BR>><BR>>      I have been reading =
your=20
struggles with George Irvine over the past<BR>> while. I think from =
reading=20
George Irvine post's on Dirquest and also on<BR>> lists where he pops =
up once=20
in a while, that he has a disorder ...<BR>> obviously. I think to pin =
point=20
it however it would be called bipolar<BR>> disorder. This is very =
common with=20
alcoholics or former drug abusers. My<BR>> buddy down in Florida told =
me he=20
has gone out<BR>> diving with Irvine and observed characteristics =
that he=20
relayed back to me<BR>> that would definitely put George in the =
symptom=20
category of this serious<BR>> problem. There are medications that =
people with=20
this character<BR>misalignment<BR>> are=20
prescribed.<BR>>      I might be full of it =
but if=20
you research Manic depressive, bipolar<BR>> disorder or alcoholic =
bipolar=20
disorder you will definitely see what I am<BR>> talking about. I may =
be full=20
of it but keep it in mind.<BR>><BR>George it really does sound like=20
you<BR></DIV>
<DIV>For those interested please read below</DIV>
<DIV><BR>> > Accident Report in Regard to Garrets Death<BR>> =
> This=20
is one of the rare times we have a detailed accident report to<BR>>=20
review:<BR>> > Saturday June 23, 19:05, Garrett and Claudia =
started a dive=20
to 300 feet at<BR>> > Mukilteo, WA. The dive included a swim of 15 =
minutes=20
down a gradual slope<BR>> to<BR>> > the planned 300-foot depth =
where 5=20
minutes were spent. The dive was<BR>> planned<BR>> > with =
software dive=20
tables. Both knew the dive site very well.<BR>> > Both were diving =
their=20
inspiration units that had passed all pre-dive<BR>> > checks. =
Onboard=20
tanks were full (8/60 and O2), scrubber fresh (see below).<BR>> > =
Also,=20
they were carrying an Al80 (10/50) and an Al40 (O2) as bailout =
each,<BR>>=20
> equipped with inflator hoses, gauges, and second stage.<BR>> =
> From=20
descent to ascent, including the deep stops, everything went =
smoothly<BR>>=20
> like usual.<BR>> > After leaving the 100 ft stop to 60 feet =
(20=20
ft/min) Garrett started to<BR>> > display he was having a =
problem.<BR>>=20
> The Inspiration was functioning correctly and there were no PO2=20
problems,<BR>> > nor other CCR related problems. The after-market =
ADV was=20
disengaged as it<BR>> > always was on ascent. No alarms, no =
malfunctions=20
were taking place.<BR>> > Claudia: Starting at 100 feet, he was =
suddenly=20
behind me, not next to me<BR>> or<BR>> > slightly in front. I =
looked=20
back and saw him getting rid of occasional<BR>> water<BR>> > in =
the=20
breathing hose (normal, although he usually did not do it on<BR>>=20
ascent,<BR>> > rather at the stop). He seemed to be struggling =
slightly=20
with 'something'.<BR>> > (When someone had problems of any kind, =
they=20
would stop and the buddy<BR>> would<BR>> > stop as well. In =
this case,=20
although slightly slower, Garrett did not<BR>> stop,<BR>> > and =
no=20
other communication indicated a serious problem, yet.)<BR>> > =
Claudia:=20
Then, arrived at the 60 ft stop, the communication was strange =
to<BR>> >=20
non-existent. All I understood, other than that he was getting in more=20
and<BR>> > more distress, was that his dry suit was not as quickly =

deflated. He<BR>> showed<BR>> > me that with opening the wrist =
seal=20
slightly and bubbles coming out.<BR>> Because<BR>> > of the =
warm neck=20
hood, it's very hard to open the neck seal that way, and<BR>> > =
Garrett=20
chose not to. "<BR>> > Garrett presented more problems with =
buoyancy and a=20
look of distress, and<BR>> > surprise. After we had spent some =
time trying=20
to stop the ascent by<BR>> > releasing gas and swimming down - I =
could not=20
get to the dry suit inflator<BR>> > to detach it (although nothing =

indicated a runaway inflator) and worked on<BR>> > the BC inflator =
-=20
Garrett stopped kicking and continued to the surface. He<BR>> > =
was just=20
floating up, looking down to me. That look said that he knew =
what<BR>> >=20
was going to happen, and I did too."<BR>> > (The longest deco in =
my life=20
(60 minutes according to tables), on top a<BR>> > stomach =
barotrauma that=20
made breathing very hard.)<BR>> > Comment: This is what we =
actually talked=20
about with Leon yesterday<BR>> > afternoon: Gary never really =
liked his=20
deflator that does not have a rest<BR>> > when fully opened, and =
together=20
with the undergarment, it seemed difficult<BR>> > to release the =
Argon in=20
a timely manner. However, I have never seen him<BR>> > having =
problems=20
before.<BR>> ><BR>> > According to a person at the surface =
that came=20
to help, Garrett went to<BR>> the<BR>> > boat ramp and climbed =
out of=20
the water. He then collapsed on the boat<BR>> ramp,<BR>> > and =
the guy=20
pulled him from the ramp up.<BR>> ><BR>> > Garrett said =
something=20
about his dry suit to this person. He had him call<BR>> > 911, =
told him=20
about his buddy doing deco and to take care of her, and had<BR>> > =
him=20
help set up everything to breathe O2 until the ambulance would =
arrive.<BR>>=20
> He breathed oxygen until his onboard O2 was empty, and his stage /=20
bailout<BR>> > O2 to 1700 psi by the time the ambulance arrived to =
pick=20
him up.<BR>> > (Throughout the dive an ordeal. There was no alarm =
or even=20
'sanity break'<BR>> at<BR>> > any time. The scrubber was okay. =
Mine was=20
new, his had 54 minutes on prior<BR>> > to the dive.)<BR>> > =
(Tom's=20
comment) I think it is important that he made a conscious =
decision<BR>> >=20
not to descend back to his stop in the water and Garrett was fully =
aware<BR>>=20
of<BR>> > the problems with an explosive decompression, so it =
would lead=20
one to<BR>> think<BR>> > other factors many be involved. He =
also had=20
adequate OC gas to do a deco<BR>> > procedure, had OC gas been=20
needed.<BR>> > Claudia: We had talked about situations like that =
before=20
and had he been<BR>> > able to, he would have resumed his deco =
after=20
fixing whatever problem he<BR>> > had. I did not like the idea of =
leaving=20
him alone when we discussed it,<BR>> but<BR>> > understand that =

otherwise we both would have been killed, and he never<BR>> > =
wanted that=20
to happen. In a similar situation, knowing that we were close<BR>> =
to<BR>>=20
> the boat ramp on a Saturday evening with many people around, I =
would=20
have<BR>> > expected for him to stay down as well. A hard decision =
I never=20
wanted to<BR>> > have to make.<BR>> > At the hospital where =
he also=20
commented about his dry suit and then fell<BR>> > unconscious =
after 5=20
minutes, due to his condition (good ECG at first, but<BR>> a<BR>> =
>=20
drop to 40 over 20) he was treated for a heart attack (while explosive=20
DSC<BR>> > is life threatening, it was secondary to the =
seriousness of the=20
heart<BR>> attack<BR>> > in the judgment of the attending =
physicians,=20
and it is difficult if not<BR>> > impossible to fully address the =
heart=20
condition while in a chamber) for 5<BR>> > hours prior to being =
placed in=20
the chamber. 20 minutes into the chamber<BR>> > treatment Garrett =
arrested=20
and died.<BR>> > Tom: Garrett was a really good friend and his =
loss=20
saddens me greatly. He<BR>> > had a tremendous amount of time on =
the=20
inspiration (460 hours plus) and<BR>> was<BR>> > the most =
active=20
instructor we have had on the west coast. And maybe the<BR>> =
most<BR>>=20
> active inspiration instructor in the USA. We have shared many =
dives,=20
deep<BR>> > dives and recently he and Claudia went on a Blue Hole =
trip=20
with several<BR>> > others and myself. He was extremely competent =
and=20
safety orientated. In<BR>> fact<BR>> > during a training =
program when=20
he was doing his IT and Martin was doing<BR>> his<BR>> > =
instructors=20
and Vicki her diver rating on the inspiration we hammered out<BR>> =
>=20
sequencing. On the skills that are now taught in the IANTD =
Inspiration<BR>>=20
> course. So he has contributed very much to our training programs =
and=20
to<BR>> > rebreather diving safety overall.<BR>> ><BR>>
=
>=20
Patti, IANTD and I wish for Garrett the happiest after life possible =
and<BR>>=20
> know his energy will always be with those he cared for.<BR>>=20
><BR>> > From everything from observations to the medical =
reaction and=20
diagnosis at<BR>> > he hospital it would have lead one to accept =
that=20
Garrett had a heart<BR>> > attack.<BR>> ><BR>>
>  =
True=20
without the complication of an explosive decompression he may =
have<BR>>=20
had<BR>> > a higher probability of surviving.<BR>>
><BR>> =
>=20
BUT after his body was reviewed by the ME the following was =
found<BR>>=20
><BR>> > Claudia: According to the examiner, no enzymes could =
be built=20
within the<BR>> > time frame of 5-6 'alive' hours that would let =
trace a=20
heart attack, and<BR>> > they were not found. The final report may =
be=20
shared with me in about 6-8<BR>> > weeks. This morning, two =
friends of=20
ours, and students of Garrett's, Ken<BR>> > Rymal and Dave =
Hancock, and I=20
were explaining the gear to the examiners to<BR>> > shed some =
light for=20
them on the subject. We tested the unit in front of<BR>> > them, =
and=20
everything worked properly.<BR>> ><BR>> > Garrett and I were =
to get=20
married 5 July, and had many good plans for<BR>> > training and =
service,=20
and just going diving all over the place. After<BR>> > talking to =
Leon=20
that afternoon, we produced even more ideas while driving<BR>> > =
from the=20
lunch place up North to Mukilteo. Except for the harsh and =
unfair<BR>> >=20
end, it was one of, of not the happiest weekend we had ever =
spent.<BR>>=20
><BR>> > Tom: questions that remain:<BR>> > 1. What =
caused Garret=20
to make the decision not to solve the problem in<BR>> water<BR>> =
>=20
(maybe due to physiological stress if in fact he was having a =
physical<BR>>=20
> problem as diagosed .by the doctors at the hosiptal and thus =
there<BR>>=20
decision<BR>> > not to put him in the chamber )<BR>> > 2. =
Why once=20
on the surface he elected not to return to the stops after<BR>> > =
dealing=20
with any other problems (again suggesting there was something =
else<BR>> >=20
taking place)<BR>> > 3. Why was he not put in the chamber earlier, =
(as=20
stated by the attending<BR>> > Doctor a heart attack but according =
to the=20
ME no evidence of a heart<BR>> attack<BR>> ><BR>> > So
we =
may or=20
may not discover the answers to these as well as what if any<BR>> =
> role a=20
problem with the dry suit may or may not have had on this =
accident.<BR>>=20
><BR>> > We do know it was not CCR related. And it appears that =
there=20
was a<BR>> > physiological problem taking place that influenced =
Garrett to=20
allow<BR>> himself<BR>> > to go to the surface and to elect not =
to=20
return to decompression.<BR>> > It is sad that he was not placed =
in the=20
chamber immediately as that would<BR>> > have definitely increased =
the=20
probability of his survival of the<BR>> > decompression issue. =
But =20
the attending doctors (s) had to make a decision<BR>> > based on =
what they=20
perceived to be most life threatening.<BR>> ><BR>> > So we =
are still=20
left with many questions<BR>> ><BR>> > We do know Garrett =
was=20
extremely competent as a diver and highly<BR>> experienced<BR>> =
> on=20
the inspiration  and that the inspiration was functioning=20
throughout<BR>> the<BR>> > dive and post dive checks on it at =
the ME=20
office<BR>> ><BR>> > Respectfully<BR>> > Claudia
Milz =
and Tom=20
Mount<BR>> > From Leon Scamahorn<BR>> > I am at a =
loss. =20
Garrett, Claudia, and I had just finished having lunch<BR>> =
and<BR>> >=20
talking about the Meg. I was looking forward to working with Garrett =
and<BR>>=20
> diving with him and Claudia.<BR>> ><BR>> > I wish =
everyone to=20
know that I believe Garrett was a fine instructor and<BR>> > =
probably the=20
best one and diver in the country on the Inspiration. I will<BR>> =
> feel=20
his loss, and I think that we all will feel his loss in the =
diving<BR>> >=20
industry. He has been a positive influence to all those that =
understood<BR>>=20
him.<BR>> ><BR>> > Claudia, you have my best
wishes.<BR>> =

><BR>> > Sincerely,<BR>> > Leon Scamahorn<BR>> > =
CEO=20
Innerspace Systems Corp.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ----- =
Original=20
Message -----<BR>> > From: "Trey" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>><BR>> > To: =
"Tom=20
Mount" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*">TOM.MOUNT@inetmail.att.net</A>=
>; "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Quest@Gu*">Quest@Gue</A>. Com"<BR>> > <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A>>; "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Jj@Gu*.Co*">Jj@Gue.Com</A>" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jj@gu*.co*">jj@gue.com</A>>; "Robert M. =
Carmichael"<BR>> >=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:halcyon@ha*.ne*">halcyon@halcyon.net</A>>; =
"Paul=20
Braunbehrens" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*">Bakalite@bakalite.com</A>>;<BR>&=
gt;=20
"Scott"<BR>> > <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:scottk@nw*.co*">scottk@nwtekk.com</A>><BR>> > =
Sent:=20
Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:01 PM<BR>> > Subject: RE: Weinberg is=20
dead<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > Tom, the only thing =
that could=20
save more lives than that piece of shit<BR>> > dying<BR>> > =
>=20
would be you retiring. I really hope you do not think anyone believes =
a<BR>>=20
> word<BR>> > > that comes out of your mouth with regard to =
IANTD=20
accidents.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Why don't you make up =
another=20
"stroke" shirt with a list of dead IANTD<BR>> > > instructors =
and=20
students on the back?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tell us which =
it is ,=20
Tom, was the cigarette smoking physical slob<BR>> > =
Weinberg<BR>> >=20
> unfit to teach diving, or did he go hypoxic shallow while diving =
with=20
a<BR>> > > complete stroke who did not even notice? Either way, =
you are=20
wrong.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tell us about the "heart =
attack" in=20
the Netherlands during an IANTD deep<BR>> > air<BR>> > > =
course?=20
Tell us again about Henry Kendall's heart attack ( ME got you<BR>>=20
guys<BR>> > > there, with the help of our buddy at the Miami =
Herald).=20
We can start<BR>> doing<BR>> > > that for all your "heart =
attacks",=20
Tom. Freedom of Information Act.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > The =

inspiration , the CIs , the CCR and all the rest have killed way =
too<BR>>=20
> > many people, TOm, and the only persons benefiting are you and=20
your<BR>> > > "instructors" who get paid to "teach" these =
things. I=20
realize this is<BR>> even<BR>> > > more lucrative than deep =
air, but=20
you are not fooling anyone at all. You<BR>> > are<BR>> > =
> the=20
lowest form of parasite on this planet, and before you die, =
everyone<BR>>=20
> > will recognize that , and hopefully you will die broke and =
with=20
a<BR>> severely<BR>> > > guilty conscience for your lying, =
deceit,=20
anything for a buck attitude<BR>> and<BR>> > > for fighting =
anyone=20
and anything the ever made any sense.<BR>> > ><BR>> > =
>=20
-----Original Message-----<BR>> > > From: Tom Mount=20
[mailto:TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*]<BR>> > > Sent: Tuesday, =
June 26,=20
2001 10:33 AM<BR>> > > To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:Quest@Gu*">Quest@Gue</A>.=20
Com; <A href=3D"mailto:Jj@Gu*.Co*">Jj@Gue.Com</A>; Robert M. Carmichael; =
Trey;=20
Paul<BR>> > > Braunbehrens; Scott<BR>> > > Subject: =
Re:=20
Weinberg is dead<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> >
>=20
Scott<BR>> > > You are a cold total asshole,<BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
> > And Trey the total deaths by divers who used inspirations is=20
12<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Also Garrett =
did not=20
die due to a CCR problem he had an actual heart<BR>> > =
attack<BR>> >=20
> for real . But then facts do not matter to you. The rebreather =
was<BR>>=20
working<BR>> > > correctly throughout the dive as verified by =
his dive=20
buddy<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tom.<BR>> > > -----
=
Original=20
Message -----<BR>> > > From: "Scott" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:scottk@nw*.co*">scottk@nwtekk.com</A>><BR>> > =
> To:=20
"Paul Braunbehrens" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*">Bakalite@bakalite.com</A>>;=20
"Trey"<BR>> <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>>;<BR>> > =
> "Robert=20
M. Carmichael" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:halcyon@ha*.ne*">halcyon@halcyon.net</A>>; "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Jj@Gu*.Co*">Jj@Gue.Com</A>" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jj@gu*.co*">jj@gue.com</A>>;<BR>> > > "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Quest@Gu*">Quest@Gue</A>. Com" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A>><BR>> > > =
Sent:=20
Monday, June 25, 2001 8:41 PM<BR>> > > Subject: Re: Weinberg is =

dead<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > I am =
trying to=20
think of something good or nice to say, but I guess<BR>> > =
that's<BR>>=20
> > > not my place. The only thing I feel right now is<BR>> =
>=20
> > a kind of numb anger.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > =
> I=20
took two courses from Weinberg almost 3 years ago. I am sorry he<BR>> =

died,<BR>> > > but<BR>> > > > I am not surprised =
nor=20
shattered.<BR>> > > > Unfortunate, but entirely predictable. =
The=20
pisser is it is so easily<BR>> > > > avoidable. But ego and =
control=20
get in the way.<BR>> > > > He and his "methods" drove me =
straight to=20
DIR.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > His arrogance at =
times was=20
frightening, and I heard him say on more<BR>> than<BR>> > >=20
one<BR>> > > > occasion when a diver died:<BR>> > > =
>=20
"Darwin was right."  Many times I heard him call people idiots,=20
often<BR>> > > > hollering and loud in front of =
others.<BR>> >=20
> > He was loud, rude and expensive.<BR>> > > =
><BR>> >=20
> > People need to wake up and smell the coffee.<BR>> > > =

><BR>> > > > Scott<BR>> > > ><BR>> > =
> >=20
"Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out =
of<BR>>=20
> > thine<BR>> > > > eye; and, behold, a beam is in =
thine own=20
eye?<BR>> > > > Matthew 7:4<BR>> > > ><BR>>
=
> >=20
><BR>> > > > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > =
> >=20
From: "Paul Braunbehrens" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*">Bakalite@bakalite.com</A>><BR>&g=
t; >=20
> > To: "Trey" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>>; "Scott" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:scottk@nw*.co*">scottk@nwtekk.com</A>>; "Robert =
M.<BR>>=20
> > > Carmichael" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:halcyon@ha*.ne*">halcyon@halcyon.net</A>>; "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Jj@Gu*.Co*">Jj@Gue.Com</A>" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jj@gu*.co*">jj@gue.com</A>>;<BR>> > "<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Quest@Gu*">Quest@Gue</A>.<BR>> > > > Com" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:quest@gu*.co*">quest@gue.com</A>><BR>> > > =
> Sent:=20
Monday, June 25, 2001 4:44 PM<BR>> > > > Subject: RE: =
Weinberg is=20
dead<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > =
> >=20
That makes what, 19 now on the inspiration?<BR>> > > > =
><BR>>=20
> > > ><BR>> > > > > Trey wrote:<BR>> > =
>=20
> > ~<BR>> > > > > >One more moron that I do not =
have to=20
argue with . Now, does anyone<BR>> > want<BR>> > > >=20
to<BR>> > > > > >tell me I am wrong when I keep being =
so=20
right? Wienberg was one of<BR>> > the<BR>> > > > =
worst<BR>>=20
> > > > >influences ever in diving.<BR>> > > =
> >=20
><BR>> > > > > >These people are not only the worst =

strokes, they are like the guys<BR>> > in<BR>> > > >=20
the<BR>> > > > > >last Indiana Jones movie who keep =
getting=20
their heads cut off.<BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > =
>=20
> >Funny how my most outspoken enemies keep ending up dead, only I =

am<BR>> > not<BR>> > > > like<BR>> > > >
=
>=20
>Clinton, I really do wait for them to just kill themselves, and =
I<BR>>=20
do<BR>> > > not<BR>> > > > > >even have to =
move them=20
to the park bench.<BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > =
> >=20
>One more argument I just won: 6-love, golden set.<BR>> > > =
>=20
> ><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > >=20
>-----Original Message-----<BR>> > > > > >From: =
Scott=20
[mailto:scottk@nw*.co*]<BR>> > > > > >Sent: Monday, =
June=20
25, 2001 7:06 PM<BR>> > > > > >To: Trey; Robert M. =
Carmichael;=20
<A href=3D"mailto:Jj@Gu*.Co*">Jj@Gue.Com</A><BR>> > > >
> =

>Subject: Weinberg is dead<BR>> > > > > ><BR>> =
> >=20
> > ><BR>> > > > > >Don't know if you guys =
heard, but=20
Weinberg died diving his<BR>> > Inspiration<BR>> > > > =

with<BR>> > > > > >Claudia Milz last friday.<BR>> =
> >=20
> > ><BR>> > > > > >They are calling it a =
heart=20
attack.<BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > >=20
>Scott<BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > >=20
><BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > =
><BR>>=20
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> > > Paul B.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > =
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