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Karla, Many of the folks up north stuff. Their reasoning (as you pointed out is that if it comes unstuffed its because you needed it and if you needed it then the dive is over, yada yada yada. This is kind of short sighted and is not the only reason it could come unstuffed. It could snag and get pulled out. If the bungee loops are too loose it could just fall out etc. One other issue that may have been ommitted is if it is stuffed you are less likely to do air share drills because then you have to restuff (and how long will that take underwater) Restowing a 'wrapped' long hose takes 5 seconds, it takes even less to deploy. As far as the hose floating up. Get yourself a good hose that is slightly negative. My first one was neutral or even a little positive and I had that problem. I replaced it with the hose sold through EE and have not had that problem since. I also don't have a canister light yet so I have put a pocket on the waist belt and tuck it under that. With a drysuit the length is perfect and I get no binding no matter how far I turn my head. Recently when wearing just a skin I needed to tuck about 3 inches under the waist belt to take up some slack. Again that worked perfectly. Bill --- Dogtrner1@ao*.co* wrote: > Mike, > > Glad to finally sort of talk to you. Grin. I have seen pictures of > you in > the shop, diving off the Tontol > > Anyway, here goes. > << > The hose shouldn't actually be "around your neck". Instead, it goes > down from the right post behind the wings, between the light > canister > and your right hip, then up along your chest biased toward the left, > around the back of your neck, then into your mouth. There's nothing > there to tighten up around your neck.>> > > It has only one pass around my neck. Just as you describe---only > without the > canister light, using a waist pouch on my bc. For whatever reason, > it does > tighten up around the right side of my neck, periodically. > > > > << 1. The long hose is the one you donate. If you stuff it > somewhere, > when an OOA diver needs it, he's going to have to spend critical > time > looking for it; if he panics, he's going for the one *all* divers > always have in the same familiar place, your mouth. Now you're OOA > too.>> > > I still use my long hose, even if stuffing, I have my reg bungied > around my > neck. > > << 2. If the stuffed hose deploys somehow (a practice drill or it > snags > something) your buddy is unlikely to know how to restuff it properly > and while wearing your gear, it will be difficult for you to restuff > yourself. If this happens inside a wreck, the ensuing silt-out will > further complicate things.>> > > Good point. > > <<3. Ultimately, logic dictates where the noses should be. The > backup > short hose should be around your neck on a short bungee. This way, > it's *always* there. That reg is the one that will save your life > someday and you shouldn't compromise on having it unconditionally > always available to you. In order for the regulator you donate to > be quickly and immediately visible and accessible to your OOA buddy, > it has to be someplace that *never* changes, that's your mouth. > Keeping it there allows the OOA diver to find it by just looking at > you and when you donate it (or have it ripped from your mouth) you > simply switch to the bungeed one and life goes on. Any other > arrangement defies logic, IMO.>> > > Again, even if you use your long hose, tho stuffed, and have your > other reg > bungied? > > Not trying to be arguementative, just trying to learn. > > I do agree that re-stuffing is a problem. However, it is moot point > in an > OOA situation, because your butts should be getting out of the > water.Right? > > > > << I see you're in Ft. Lauderdale, as am I. Why don't you check out > the AUE dive calendar and join us for a few local dives. Watch how > we rig our gear and see why it works in the water. Ask questions > and > get suggestions from us. We dive *all the time* all over Florida > from easy fun dives on the Hydro Atlantic to demanding very deep > ocean > and cave dives and we're very successful at it due in part to the > way we rig our gear.>> > > Once I finish my class, we can talk about it. Right now, I am kinda > taking a > break from the deep stuff. > > Change of subject: We did the Lorrance about 3 weeks ago, and I have > > absolutely no recollection of the dive once I hit 140 on the line. I > got > down to that depth, htought "Shit theres a current down here" and > don't > remember anything until I switched over to my travel gas at 120, back > on the > line. I was with my instructor. He said that I did fine. Checked > all my > gauges, motioned to him that I was iffy on being ok when asked, and > motioned > that I was ready to go after about 10 minutes. > But still no memory of the dive. I was on Helium. 21/30. My > depth on > that dive was 185. Totally narced out my mind. > > Since then we have upped the helium to 35-40, and no problems, but > that was > kinda freaky. We did the Renegade the next weekend---went to 198. > No > problems, so that should remedy it. > > But it's time for a break. I had to call the Hydro and the Clinton > the other > day. Ripping currents. I ended up doing the Clinton---sort of, the > line got > hung up on the Miller, and I drifted into the wrect to retrieve it. > That was > a nice dive. Too bad we don't have any 150ft reefs in this area:) > > Anyway, unless something special comes up, I am not doing another > tech dive > until probably August. Will do the Miller, or the Guy, but those > aren't that > deep. Plus, have done the Miller about 10 times. > > I have been with the Brownies guys on the Tonto many times. I think > that > they are amazed that I can do a 20 minute dive on the Miller with a > 120 and > pony:) And still have 2000psi in the 120 at the end of the dive:) > We > womem...See, I have a philosophy. Those with more brain cells need > less > oxygen......Only kidding! VBG > > Later, > Karla > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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