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From: "Iain Smith" <iainmsmith@bt*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Long Hose Stuffing VS Hogarthian(Sp?)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:02:51 +0100
>  1) The hose can not be re-stowed by YOU with now help from you
buddy
>  under water.  Even if your buddy helps it becomes a huge CF.>>
>
> Ok, But theoritically(sp?) if you are having an out of air
situation,
> you are getting out of the water?  Right?  not hanging out?

What if you've got stops to do? If you're switching to a rich
decompression mix, you need to stow the long hose somewhere to get it
out of the way.

> << 2) Stuffing the hose puts undue wear on the hose, especially when
> some people leave it stuffed all the time even when not diving.>>
>
> THis is true.  I do not(leave it stuffed when not diving) and I am
also
> thinking of putting some intertube around my tanks.  I use steel, so
the > rubbing is even more problematic, with my old 120.  No paint on
it.

I think the "wear" referred to is the tight curves the hose is forced
into by wrapping it.

> << 3) Most people will go for the reg in their buddy's mouth when
out of
> air  and in a hurry to get air, it's just what seems to happen in an
> emergency  because they know that reg works and it's easier to find
that
> something bungeed to the side of a tank.>>
>
> Agreed, but why can't you stuff, and have your octo as your primary
and > your primary bungied?   Actually that is what I do.

(Terminology - the primary is the reg you breath and should be the
easier-breathing reg, the one slung round your neck is the "backup".)
I'm not sure what you're asking here. Sorry!

> << 9) I don't care how much you practice it, it is easier and
quicker to
> hand off the long hose to you buddy and dip your head to get your
backup
> that is around your neck.  Stuffing is a huge CF just waiting for
> somebody to run out of air.>>
>
> CF? Cluster F...?

Correct. :-)

> The problem for me resides, is that when I am having a problem with
it
> either floating or tightening around my neck, then it is a danger to
me.

Have you tried putting a loop of hose under your waistbelt, rather
than under the waist pouch? This would let you pull a little more
slack into the hose if you felt it was too tight. This is how I wear
my hose when I'm not diving with a canister, and it works fine. I've
never tried it while wearing a canister, but I don't see any immediate
reason why it should not work. Doubtless someone will point one out if
there is!

Hope this helps.

Iain

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