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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 08:51:01 -0400
To: trey@ne*.co* (Trey), <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: RE: Surface Markers
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Yes, you are correct. Down there it is very unwise and unsafe to dive like 
we do up here, the current will always win. To free drop and deco as a 
drifting group is the correct way down there.


At 05:59 AM 6/6/01 -0400, Trey wrote:
>Most of these currents do not extend down very far below the surface. The 
>Gulf Stream, which is a lot faster than anything found in NE wreck diving, 
>extends down 150 feet at best before it is still. Sometimes it will sweep 
>lower.  The very top can move nearly 4 knots, by 70 feet it is a lot 
>slower, and deeper it is barely perceptible.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:43 PM
>>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>Subject: Re: Surface Markers
>>
>>>Do a free ascent until you hit 70'.  It's not that tough.
>>If the boat is tied into the wreck it is a problem, very seldom do we 
>>have current strong enough to keep us from tieing into the wrecks, but 
>>some current is always there, to free ascent means you will drift away 
>>during deco, if the dive boat does not have a chase boat YOU ARE FUCKED, 
>>the boat will not leave other divers in the water that did nothing wrong 
>>to go save one dumb ass. If the liftbag has a problem with depth, get a 
>>different lift bag.
>>
>>>ss
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: <mailto:NyWrecker@ao*.co*>NyWrecker@aol.com
>>>>To: 
>>>><mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>se2schul@student.math.uwaterl 
>>>>oo.ca ; <mailto:joe@po*.co*>joe@polarbearinc.com ; 
>>>><mailto:gert.je@wo*.nl*>gert.je@wolmail.nl ; 
>>>><mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>>>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:15 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Surface Markers
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 6/3/2001 6:46:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
>>>><mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>se2schul@student.math.uwaterl 
>>>>oo.ca writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If one takes a GUE course, he or she would know that GUE advocates 
>>>>>deploying
>>>>>the lift bag once you arrive at 70', not at 275'.  I'm unaware of 
>>>>>problems
>>>>>when one deploys the bag properly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ok i see why it would be a problem shooting one from depth due to the air
>>>>expanding.In a course i took that was'nt GUE- may have been wreck,we were
>>>>told in an emergency shoot the bag,, tie it off and assend on it.And 
>>>>yes it
>>>>was a Jersey reel too but thats un-important now.What do you do if your at
>>>>depth then???Say between 100' and 200. Im ready :-)
>>>>                  Ed
>>>>
>>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in 
>>the water"
>>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>>  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>>Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>
>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in 
>the water"
>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>

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Yes, you are correct. Down there it is very unwise and unsafe to dive
like we do up here, the current will always win. To free drop and deco as
a drifting group is the correct way down there. <br>
<br>
<br>
At 05:59 AM 6/6/01 -0400, Trey wrote:<br>
<font face="arial" size=4 color="#0000FF"><blockquote type=cite cite>Most
of these currents do not extend down very far below the surface. The Gulf
Stream, which is a lot faster than anything found in NE wreck diving,
extends down 150 feet at best before it is still. Sometimes it will sweep
lower.  The very top can move nearly 4 knots, by 70 feet it is a lot
slower, and deeper it is barely
perceptible.</font><blockquote><font face="tahoma" size=2>
<dl>
<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From:</b> Capt JT
[<a href="mailto:captjt@mi*.co*"
eudora="autourl">mailto:captjt@mi*.co*</a>]
<dd>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:43 PM
<dd>To:</b> techdiver@aquanaut.com
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: Surface Markers<br>
<br>
</font><blockquote type=cite cite><font face="arial">
<dd>Do a free ascent until you hit 70'.  It's not that
tough.</font></blockquote>
<dd>If the boat is tied into the wreck it is a problem, very seldom do we
have current strong enough to keep us from tieing into the wrecks, but
some current is always there, to free ascent means you will drift away
during deco, if the dive boat does not have a chase boat YOU ARE FUCKED,
the boat will not leave other divers in the water that did nothing wrong
to go save one dumb ass. If the liftbag has a problem with depth, get a
different lift bag. <br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><font face="arial">
<dd>ss</font><blockquote type=cite cite>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- 
<dd>From:</b> <a
href="mailto:NyWrecker@ao*.co*">NyWrecker@aol.com</a> 
<dd>To:</b>
<a
href="mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*">se2schul@student.math.uwaterloo.ca</a>
; <a href="mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</a> ; <a
href="mailto:gert.je@wo*.nl*">gert.je@wolmail.nl</a> ; <a
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a> 
<dd>Sent:</b> Monday, June 04, 2001 8:15 AM
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: Surface Markers<br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>In a message dated 6/3/2001 6:46:22 PM Central Daylight Time, 
<dd><a
href="mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*">se2schul@student.math.uwaterloo.ca</a>
writes: <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>
<dd>If one takes a GUE course, he or she would know that GUE advocates
deploying 
<dd>the lift bag once you arrive at 70', not at 275'.  I'm unaware of
problems 
<dd>when one deploys the bag properly. </blockquote><br>
<br>

<dd>Ok i see why it would be a problem shooting one from depth due to the
air 
<dd>expanding.In a course i took that was'nt GUE- may have been wreck,we
were 
<dd>told in an emergency shoot the bag,, tie it off and assend on it.And yes
it 
<dd>was a Jersey reel too but thats un-important now.What do you do if your
at 
<dd>depth then???Say between 100' and 200. Im ready :-) 
<dd>            &
nbsp;    Ed 
<dd>            &
nbsp;   </font></b></blockquote></blockquote>
<dd>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to
get in the water"<font color="#0000FF">
<dd>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more 
<dd> Web Site  <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</a>
<dd>Email     captjt@mi*.co*</font>
</dl></u></blockquote><br>

"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the water"<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><u>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East
Coast & more <br>
 Web Site  <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</a><br>
Email     captjt@mi*.co*<br>
<br>
</font></u></html>

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