This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ED04.5258FE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, I don't think they are saying use 35% helium at 101 feet. If I understand correctly what they are saying is when diving below 100 FSW use a helium mix that keeps the EAD at or below 100. You know do a dive to 150 FSW, use a helium mix greater than 17%... Art. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dixon [mailto:jj@da*.co*] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 7:55 PM To: pina Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: deep air Please help 35% He at 100 ft - I'm sorry but I don't believe this. I'm no advocate of deep air but somebody needs to get real here! Regards Mark -----Original Message----- From: pina [mailto:pina3@be*.ne*] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 02:33 To: NyWrecker@ao*.co*; Techdiver Subject: RE: deep air Please help The 35% would be 21-35 and the 45% would be 18-45 (with the first number being the oxygen). The important part is that the EAD is maintained below 100 feet and the pp02max is below 1.4, and that HYPERoxic mixes are not used in these ranges. 18% is not normoxic (21% is normoxic), but is accepted as such generally. You shouldn't breathe it on the surface as a matter of practice. You need to ditch this idiot instructor who was taking you to 150, 160, 180 on air (for what I assume must have been an Advanced Nitrox Course). Do yourself a favor now and just take the rest of your training from GUE http://www.gue.com <http://www.gue.com/> The link on the website that says "Classroom" talks about the courses. There is a GUE instructor that I know in NY - his name is Bob Sherwood. His contact information is below. Continuing with an instructor that is teaching you such dangerous practices as deep air will not do you any good in further classes. The text alone is faulty and error laden, but when combined with a poor instructor becomes a complete waste of time and money as well as a personal danger. Do not continue your training with this idiot just to do him a favor or because you think he is a nice guy, do yourself a favor and get proper training. Otherwise, you will just need to be retrained and retold later how do do all the things safely that this idiot taught you to do unsafely, so you might as well just get it taught to you properly the first time. The current instructor would be teaching you improper deco mixes most likely, too, like 80% or some other stupidity, not to mention the dangerously inadequate gear he will likely recommend and uses himself. I've been there, don't waste your money and time learning things wrong. This guy has proven himself an idiot already, do you really want to trust him with your life? Try this guy, he is in NY, or check the GUE website for another instructor in your area if you like: Bob Sherwood 829 Main Street Vestal, NY 13850 Phone: 607.786.3941 Fax 607.748.7565 email: sherwood@gu*.co* <mailto:sherwood@gu*.co*> --pina -----Original Message----- From: NyWrecker@ao*.co* [mailto:NyWrecker@ao*.co*] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:33 AM To: pina3@be*.ne* Subject: Re: deep air Please help In a message dated 5/31/2001 11:56:25 PM Central Daylight Time, pina3@be*.ne* writes: 35% helium at least on dives to 100' to 150' (this is nice at 85'-90' also), 45% helium at least on dives to 200', and 55% helium at least on dives to 250' - no hyperoxic mixes and pp02Max of 1.4 - more like 1.3 or 1.2 for this 35-45 helium whats it called hypoxix-normoxix-or just a mix course.He said something about it being 2 seperate courses Ed ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ED04.5258FE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; 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mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>M= ark,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><= ![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I= don’t think they are saying use 35% helium at 101 feet.<span = style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If I understand correctly what they are saying is = when diving below 100 FSW use a helium mix that keeps the EAD at or below = 100.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>You know do a dive to 150 = FSW, use a helium mix greater than 17%…<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><= ![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A= rt.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><= ![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><= ![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Mark Dixon [mailto:jj@da*.co*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 03, = 2001 7:55 PM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pina<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> = techdiver@aquanaut.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: deep air = Please help</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:black'>35% He at 100 ft - I'm sorry but I don't believe = this. I'm no advocate of deep air but somebody needs to get real = here!</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:black'>Regards</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:black'>Mark</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> pina [mailto:pina3@be*.ne*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 01, = 2001 02:33<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NyWrecker@ao*.co*; = Techdiver<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: deep air = Please help</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt'> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Book = Antiqua"; color:black'>The 35% would be 21-35 and the 45% would be 18-45 (with = the first number being the oxygen). The important part is that the EAD is maintained below 100 feet and the pp02max is below 1.4, and that = HYPERoxic mixes are not used in these ranges.</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Book = Antiqua"; color:black'>18% is not normoxic (21% is normoxic), but is accepted as = such generally. You shouldn't breathe it on the surface as a matter of practice.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt: windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Book = Antiqua"; color:black'>You need to ditch this idiot instructor who was taking you = to 150, 160, 180 on air (for what I assume must have been an Advanced Nitrox Course). Do yourself a favor now and just take the rest of your = training from GUE <a = href=3D"http://www.gue.com/">http://www.gue.com</a> The link on the website that says "Classroom" talks about the courses. There is a GUE instructor that I know in NY - his name = is Bob Sherwood. His contact information is below. = </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Book = Antiqua"; color:black'>Continuing with an instructor that is teaching you such = dangerous practices as deep air will not do you any = good in further classes. The text alone is faulty and error laden, but when = combined with a poor instructor becomes a complete waste of time and money as = well as a personal danger. Do not continue your training with this idiot = just to do him a favor or because you think he is a nice guy, do yourself a favor = and get proper training. </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-= alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Book = Antiqua"; color:black'>Otherwise, you will just need to be retrained and = retold later how do do all the things safely that this idiot taught you to do unsafely, so you might as well just get it taught to you properly the = first time. The current instructor would be teaching you improper deco = mixes most likely, too, like 80% or some other stupidity, not to mention the dangerously inadequate gear he will likely recommend and uses = himself. I've been there, don't waste your money and time learning things = wrong. This guy has proven himself an idiot already, do you really want to = trust him with your life?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Book = Antiqua"; color:black'>Try this guy, he is in NY, or check the GUE website = for another instructor in your area if you like:</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=3D5 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-weight:bold'>Bob Sherwood<br> </span></font></b><b><font color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-family: Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>829 Main Street<br> Vestal, NY 13850<br> Phone: 607.786.3941<br> Fax 607.748.7565 <br> email: <a = href=3D"mailto:sherwood@gu*.co*">sherwood@gue.com</a></span></font>< /b><= font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Book = Antiqua"; color:black'>--pina</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> </div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt'> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:111.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black = 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> NyWrecker@ao*.co* [mailto:NyWrecker@ao*.co*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 01, = 2001 8:33 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = pina3@be*.ne*<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: deep air = Please help</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></ p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt= : auto;margin-left:111.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black = 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated 5/31/2001 11:56:25 PM Central Daylight Time, <br> pina3@be*.ne* writes: <br> <br> <br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'> <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br = style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'> <![endif]></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:wi= ndowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt'> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt= : auto;margin-left:115.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue = 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>35% helium at least on dives to 100' to 150' (this is nice at 85'-90' = also), <br> 45% helium at least on dives to 200', and 55% helium at least on dives = to <br> 250' - no hyperoxic mixes and pp02Max of 1.4 - more like 1.3 or 1.2 for = </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></ p> </div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt'> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt= : auto;margin-left:111.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black = 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><br> <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>this 35-45 helium whats it called hypoxix-normoxix-or just a mix course.He <br> said something about it being 2 seperate courses <br> Ed</span></b></span></font><f ont color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> </div> </div> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0ED04.5258FE70-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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